[CBS] Rockets have a crazy plan to beat the Warriors (and it just might work)

If nothing else, @goldoil needs to figure out how to post his asinine arguments in one concise post as opposed to spamming the thread one shitpost at a time.

 

I missed it. Can you say it one moar time?

Kthxbhai

 

If analytics are horrible and ineffective, explain to me how not only are the Rockets 0.25 points per hundred possessions from having the best offense in the history of the NBA, but also how the D-League affiliate, who run the same system, are also leading their league in points?



I just realized that this question involves analytics so since you are afraid of them it's probably best if you don't respond

 

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I'm not concerned so much with having the best offense.

I look at the stats and see they have the number 2 offense in the league.

I am more concerned with championships.

What the Rockets have done so far has been amazing but there is still room for more improvement.

 

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I'm not doubting any of that.

But there is something that is holding the Rockets back.

Things mentioned have been rebounding and defense.

The Rockets have come a long way from last season but they will still need much more improvement to handle SA and GS.

 

I agree, particularly about Cleveland.

There is something about the way that Cleveland plays that I like.

 

Nice straw man


First you say the offense isn't balanced, then when pressed you say you're not concerned about the offense

 

So no response on how I blew your argument out of the water?

Cool

Look, what holds us back is talent level. They teams you are talking about have the best collection of talent. We don't. But even tho we are outmatched in that category we still are capable of standing toe to toe with them. Thanks to analytics.

Sure our defense is average. Sure our rebounding is average.

But that has nothing to do with how you said we shoot too many 3s and don't score inside enough. How Cleveland and gsw do it more and better.

I pointed out your lie and obvious flaw to your argument.

You want to move goal posts and argue about defense and rebounding sure.

Rebounds per game
Gsw 8th at 44.5
Rockets 10th at 44
Cleveland 15th at 43.6

We are much better offensive rebounders we rank 9th, Cleveland 19th and gsw 21st

Our biggest issue rebounding is defensive and boxing out.

Gsw is 2nd, cleveland is 9th and we are only 17th. It's a weakness and something we HAVE to work on.

San Antonio has the best defensive rating
Gsw has the 2nd best defensive rating
Houston has the 14th best defensive rating (average)
Cleveland has the 22nd best defensive rating (below average)

Next argument please.

 

need a poll to figure out goldieboil's identity. joomba? Madrocketsgamer? ABS? We need @FTW Rockets FTW to weigh in with his expert opinion

 

These type of bumps should be an auto-ban, @Clutch

 

You are better off just hitting the ignore button like I did next to his posts.

 

Do you think if we got our defensive rebounding numbers up to like 10-12th in the league it would push us into the top 10 in defense.

Most games the defense looks solid but it seems we just get crushed on the boards and give up a lot of offensive rebounds.

The games we hold teams to under 100 points not seems we crush those teams on the Board.

I wonder what we can do to improve in this area. It seems to be the teams only real weakness.

I'm not even worried About talent, I think we have enough talent. Only thing we need is for dekker to become a 38+% three point shooter. If we can get him doing that this team will have no weakness.

 

The thing that I think makes Houston an unlikely foil to Golden State is the range of their shooters. Anderson, Gordon, and sometimes Williams and Harden have legit range well beyond the 3 pt line and that forces the defense to extend further than normal. GS's defensive prowess is predicated on their length guarding their opponent inside of 23 feet of the hoop because they have so many guys who are long and able to both quickly close driving lanes AND contest 3pt shots at the same time. That makes them a very tough team defensively for most squads......BUT, if GS trots out their death lineup and they have to guard Gordon or Anderson out to 30+ feet from the hoop, then their length is neutralized to some extent - in other words, they aren't death on both sides of the ball anymore, just one side. It's the same conundrum that teams have had to face when guarding Golden State - there are massive driving lanes if you guard them up to their range, and they are dead eye shooters if you don't. Houston is probably the only team that can give Golden State a taste of their own medicine like that....

By the way, not sure if anyone remembers this but when Houston was trailing Golden State in the playoff series a few years back, a sideline reported asked Darryl Morey what his team can do to get back in the series and he responded to "increase the variance". The way this particular roster has been assembled is an attempt at that. Check out an old Nylon Calculus article about that:
http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/07/20/a-random-walk-through-nba-variance/

 

That's an interesting question. Because an offensive rebound does NOT count as a new possession but rather a restart. So from my eye test we give up a lot of points and looks off of 2nd chance points. Metrics show we give up a lot of offensive rebounds while our defense rating hover just above average.

So the lack of defensive rebounding absolutely hurts our defense and our overall defensive rating.

Pushing us into top 10 is possible. But I'm dubious.

Before the season started I stated we would have a top 3 offense and if we could have an average defense we would be deadly. That's been proven accurate and we are dangerous.

I also said if our defense was top 10 we would be completely capable to win the championship. We aren't there yet.

I think a Tyson Chandler type player does great. But we lose the capela aspect. We have to hope he evolves into that. And he has shown promise and potential to believe in that.

We need to improve boxing out. Plain and simple. Anderson is amazing for our offense but he hurts or defense. The same we he helps us offensively without his spacing he hurts us defensively because he is so far out at the pf position. It leaves us vulnerable on the boards.

So now 10-12th in defense rebounding doesn't get us top 10 defense rating. But a top 8 Dec rebounding probably does.

 

He is either a blatant troll or a young kid posting with a cell phone.

Put him on ignore and this thread will look much better.