[NYT] Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

Hey, that's really cool of you. I'm just old (relatively speaking), and I'm known for being calm
Also, I probably got a lot of batshit nuttiness out of my system on here when I was new, circa 2002, LOL.
But on the real, I have this insane hope that we can all talk to one another at some future time, no matter our politics. That may make me the craziest poster of all though.

 

With all due respect, this is bullshit, in my opinion. Please give some examples.

 

I've tried to suss out an explanation but Cojete and I aren't on the same page. I won't call it BS, I just want to know who really believes this on the BBS or through the MSM. Because if they do, they deserve ridicule and or sarcasm.

 

Obviously this is not for Deckard but Cohete Rojo.
Who said Trump is Russian agent, at worst he asked Russians to help win an election(Trump even made a public request), I still believe that cannot be proved even if it is true.

Russians tried to influence the election, how much that helped Trump, no one will ever know. The more Trump administration tries to stop the investigations, the more it appears they have something to hide, at least to people who are not die hard Trump supporters.

 

Same here. I don't recall seeing that, and would have disagreed if I had. He makes it sound like there is a "horde" of members here who believe Trump is a Russian "plant" and has been for years. Where are they?

 

You know, President Trump has accused President Obama of not being born in America, of founding ISIS, and of personally ordering his office to be wiretapped.

I'd have to think that President Obama has been reasonably nice about all this. But, however, maybe President Obama now needs to respond this way:

"President Trump: **** You."

 

Irony... Trump and his supporters claiming McCarthyism...

Steve Bannon in 2013: Joseph McCarthy was right in crusade against Communist infiltration
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/06/politics/kfile-bannon-mccarthy/index.html

 

the actual Clown Show-in-Chief^

 

A Bannon interview was also uncovered earlier where Bannon said that "Its in their DNA (Immigrants) to not assimilate to American culture".

Also this whole "Deep State" nonsense is nothing but another word for Illuminate. Surprised he hasn't arrested Jay Z yet.

The White House is truly run now by a bunch of lunatics. Anyone want to guess how much longer until this guy gets a spot on his cabinet?

Spoiler: AJ

I'm being serious... I think its really a possibility this guy will be in the white house.

 

Thanks for understanding why Russia would be useful as a deterrent against Iran, for both Israel and Saudi Arabia.

 

Oh please, we've had people post threads about Trump being a Russian agent, and we have multiple threads of accusations and innuendo.

I mean: why all the fuss about Trump and Russia?

 

Good lord. Bannon is on record praising Joe McCarthy and from as recently as 2013. This is the man arguably closest to the President, Mr. Trump, who is his "chief strategist," with a seat on the National Security Council, the nation's highest national security deliberative body.

So you have nothing. "Fake News" "Alternative Facts" Oh, and there's another way of putting what you are doing in context - posting lies and calling it truth, without proof. Sounds like the guy in the Oval Office.

 

You might be surprised how many so-called conservatives actually share the belief that McCarthy was either not so bad or even was right in what he did.

 

Yes, it would surprise me to see anyone here actually defend Joe McCarthy.

 

It wouldn't surprise me. Several conservatives have praised him. They also make Saul Alinsky and Howard Zinn sound like the devil incarnate. I was assigned those books in the 80s when I attended North Harris Community College,and I didn't even know what I was politically. I just thought the ideas in those books made a great deal of sense- logically. Now, an Arkansas senator wants to ban Zinn and they continually rail against Rules for Radicals. So, IOW, ignorance at its finest.

 

sad stuff.

Spoiler

Partial lyrics from an XTC classic
Books are burning in the main square
And I saw there, the fire eating the text
Books are burning in the still air
And you know where they burn books, people are next

I believe the printed word should be forgiven
Doesn't matter what it said
Wisdom hotline from the dead back to the living
Key to the larder for your heart and your head, unh

Books are burning in our own town
Watch us turn 'round and cast our glances elsewhere
Books are burning in the playground
Smell of burnt book is not unlike human hair

 

Not sure if serious, but I really don't remember whole threads about Trump being a "Russian agent." Seriously, that's completely crazy. They would never hire his ass. "Here, you can sell some tickets to Red Square parade, Domal Trum. You sell good, like steaks and fake college, yes? Sell all tickets, can keep winter coat."

Now, I've definitely seen a number of articles (and posts here) talking about him potentially being considered an "asset," most probably unwittingly. A KGB pro flatters the newb, looks up his Russian debt and/or investment leverage, then rubs chin, nods in a evil, sage way. Yes, many logical people can picture such a scenario and it starts to provide one reason that Russia then meddles on his behalf. (There are other obvious reasons, such as: they don't like America.)

All the fuss, aside from Fox/Breitbart, is that most the intelligence community says this level of meddling in our election is unprecedented and used to a be a "no go" zone in our respective spying, even in the cold war. (Articles a plenty). And then the fuss is amplified b/c a **** ton of POTUS advisers and would-be cabinet appointees have very strong ties to Russia one way or another. That's fairly unprecedented too.

And still, that turd sandwich would probably go away, seriously -- and it may float away anyway -- but we keep getting weird, angry denials that get disproven. We get lies under testimony (maybe clumsy mis-statements, maybe, but definitely untruths spoken). I mean, yeah, pretty weird stuff, from start to finish. I can see why, again, people like Graham, McCain, and GWB, and many others say the questions must be answered. You can see why straight shooters like Evan McMullin are on it too.

The question is: other than pure partisanship, or just disliking "liberals", why does anyone want to ignore this bizarro stuff with Russia? I think it's getting a little too much play, while the House is cranking up some truly looney legislation under cover, but it needs to get a decent amount of play. The whole story just screams "dig here, keep digging. This will get weirder, I promise."

 

That's an excellent question. That Russia is a hostile foreign power literally all our intelligence agencies and the FBI say interfered with our recent election seems to mean nothing to some of the members here, who make that clear over and over and over again. It is truly bizarre and I can't explain it, other than to say that much of what they post is straight out of Breitbart "News" and similar online sources that specialize in spreading "Fake News" to promote their agenda. What causes them to post that garbage? In my opinion, it is similar to other movements in history that caused the world great pain and also specialized in using similar "fake news." Thanks to the incurious and easily influenced people who eat that stuff up, our free press and our government are under assault.

Does it get "too much play," overshadowing what the Republican Congress and Trump are about to shove down the throats of what will be an astonished and dismayed majority of Americans? I don't think so. It is too important not to get as much publicity as possible, and some of us can follow both without a problem.

 

LOL at the source, but this seems to counter Trump and his administration denials about meetings during the campaign. And look who was also there... Jeffy, and the Donald himself...

http://americablog.com/2017/03/newsmax-trump-met-russian-amb-kislyak-last-april-despite-denials.html

 

Shhh, Trump may need to start another twittergasm to knock this Russia stuff out of the headlines again...

Trump campaign approved adviser's trip to Moscow


Campaign leaders knew in advance of Carter Page's Russia visit in July 2016, former aide says.

By Josh Meyer and Kenneth P. Vogel

03/07/17 05:14 PM EST

Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski approved foreign policy adviser Carter Page’s now-infamous trip to Moscow last summer on the condition that he would not be an official representative of the campaign, according to a former campaign adviser.

A few weeks before he traveled to Moscow to give a July 7 speech, Page asked J.D. Gordon, his supervisor on the campaign’s National Security Advisory Committee, for permission to make the trip, and Gordon strongly advised against it, Gordon, a retired Naval officer, told POLITICO.

Page then emailed Lewandowski and spokeswoman Hope Hicks asking for formal approval, and was told by Lewandowski that he could make the trip, but not as an official representative of the campaign, the former campaign adviser said. The adviser spoke on the condition of anonymity because he has not been authorized to discuss internal campaign matters.

The trip is now a focus of congressional and FBI investigations into Russian influence in the 2016 presidential election.

Lewandowski told POLITICO he did not recall the email exchange with Page, but did not deny that it occurred.

more at the link...