Game of Thrones star highlights culture of abuse in Islam

As someone that leans left, I don't deny that Islamic teachings have some fundamentally wrong and ethically incorrect challenges. But to label all Muslims a certain way and generate prejudice for it is simply ignorant.

Funny, I could take the same quote and apply it to the far right. The violence and physical/psychological xenophobia is at an all time high. But by no means would I label all those on the far right that way.

Guys like you stopped trying and stopped being real Christians. What happened to trying to convert and teach with compassion and tolerance? Apparently the only way is to generate anger and fear and violence.

So damn ironic.

 

Youre speaking from both sides of your mouth. You acknowledge the are issues with the teachings of Islam but then you turn it around and say Christians do the same. Christian, which is synonomous with being 'Christ-like' does not teach these behaviors. Controlling manipulative assholes are the ones who misconstrue texts and use it to abuse people. This is for anything. Im not going to pretend I understand the teachings of the Koran and state Islam is a rotten religion. I know all to well the the vast majority of people struggle to understand the Holy Bible is not the same as Christianity. However the culture of Islam is strongly rooted to muslim men maintaining power and using it to control anything they disagree with.

 

Man stop dissing the Bible. It explcitly states that women ought to obey men. Stop twisting the message.

Textually, the Quran and the Bible are practically the same in terms of language revolving women. Both explictly state that they must 'obey their husband'.

I agree though the biggest difference is the life of Muhammad and the life of the character known as Jesus(both religions are obviously false, but there is more certainty that Muhmmad was an actual person). While Muhmmad was a crazed sex fiend, Jesus the character was a virgin hippie.

 

Good for her. More awareness of issues from insider help folks in that culture to see them and will have a better chance of causing organic change.

 

I didn't say Christians do the same; re-read what I wrote. I said far right ideologies do the same and that's the irony (and contradiction with practicing Christianity at the same time). Something like Breitbart has more similarities to radical Islam than any other group in the US.

 

So, the Word of God is not the same as Christianity- that'll be shocking news to a lot of Christians who believe in the "inerrancy" of the Bible.

BTW, Paul did say women should be silent in church. In the New Testament, which many take as verbatim as opposed to the Old (b/c we're supposed to disregard all the negative things that happened in the Old Testament- well, that is, except for the Ten Commandments- we need to follow those, but ignore all the horrible atrocities otherwise therein).

 

This is why all religions are basically messed up. We're supposed to use the holy books as our guideline for how to live, yet we can't b/c there is a plethora of horrible teachings in most, if not all. So, instead, we're supposed to follow how our particular religion interprets those books- except that not all interpret in the same way. We can be in a church that chooses the most benevolent aspects of the Bible, or we can be in a church that condemns homosexuals to eternal damnation.

So, do we follow the book or follow the religion? Who gets to be the end-all, be-all interpreter? Is Islam evil? Is Christianity horrible? Do some use Islam for evil- and do some use Christianity for the same?

Here's a thought- when it comes to policy, scrap anything tied to religion. It should be all about what people know is the right thing to do whether or not a holy book decrees it so.

 

There's also the big difference that while the Bible says a wife should obey her husband, it also says that a husband should love his life with essentially a self-sacrificing unconditional love. That would seem to preclude violence against her and mistreatment. Regardless of what you think about they "obey" part, it's pretty hard to think the two messages are the same in my opinion.

 

Do Islamic values conflict with Western values?

 

Christianity should be limited to the 4 gospels. Anything before that is history and anything after that starts the corruption of the church. I will not deny in the least Christian churches manipulate and control through their denominations. Thats not to say they are are all good or all bad. If youre one to believe the Holy Bible is the infallable word of God, then they are setting themselves up for failure. The point is Christ never condemned anyone.

Maybe one day I will take the time to understand the Koran. But if Muhammed preaches violence, then there is merrit to Islam being a rotten religion

 

nope. not all religions are equal. Islam is evil.

 

Considering how often the chick has been naked on Game of Thrones, I find her comments about Islam particularly fascinating.

 

What's to be done, then? There are over 1.5 billion Muslims on earth. Are you doing mission work to convert them to a less-evil faith? Do you desire "holy war" to wipe them off the earth? There's a problem of scale here that's really easy to ignore when posting on a basketball forum.

For many people, religion is at the core of their being. In a religion as ritualistic as Islam, describing the faith of 1.6 billion people as "evil" cuts to everything that they do and immediately attacks the person, not the faith. There is a lot to criticize about Islam, but using sweeping generalizations not only demean its adherents, but makes you look simply hateful in the process.

 

How do you know this and why are you so sure it's right?

 

Religious enmity over time:

"This is the governing law of the universe, submit or else."

"Nuh-uh."

"Say that again to my face."

 

because everywhere it goes civilization declines.

malign/shun their awful beliefs.

 

I think the Christian right are envious of the Muslim religion in the middle east and else where, they would love to return to the days of past where Christian religion was just as extreme as the Muslim religion today.

 

Do you acknowledge that for a devout person, immediately attacking their "awful beliefs" is an awful way to start interpersonal dialogue? That when you immediately say that, you're passing a value judgment on them as a person due to their religion?

Would you say that to the face of 1.6 billion people or would you perhaps take a more delicate approach?

 

The same can be said about followers of their perspective religions , I know many wonderful Christians who are way different than you