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texas politics: bathroom bill

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jo mama, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. durvasa

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    How do you know that being transgendered doesn't have a biological basis? There are many scientific studies that suggest this to be the case. That we don't at present have the ability to see this externally or easily detect it through some device doesn't mean its not biological.

    My point stands, your rhetorical sleight of hand notwithstanding. Segregation of sexes is "fully accepted" for people who's gender matches their sex. To say its fully accepted for the entire population is ignoring the fact that there is a difference of opinion here with respect to trans people.

    Anyway, we are in agreement that common sense should prevail, and this isn't something that needs to be legislated.
     
  2. Granville

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    Honest question. Before the legislation, where were transgendered people going to the restroom? I can't honestly say I saw a transgendered person in a men's bathroom. I always assumed that they went in the women's restroom.
     
  3. wouldabeen23

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    where I used to work there was a dude with a wig who used the women's restroom, and many woman were creeped out by it and said so
     
  5. ipaman

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    who knew there were so many science deniers on the left?!?! who knew the left had so much in common with the christian right morons?!
     
  6. Granville

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    So, what did your employer do about the situation? You'd think a cross dresser would not be allowed in a restroom clearly labeled for women.
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    Well SB 6 will prevent the policy from being local; it'd be dictated by the State of Texas, and no political subdivision can deviate.
     
  8. ipaman

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    creating a law is stupid on multiple levels but so is asking for the right to use any restroom you identify with. many reasons why but here's the most straightforward reason. which restroom should a non-binary, bigender, agender, neutrois, genderfluid, cis-genderless, 3rdgender, two-spirit, androgynous, etc... use? i ask all of you who support transgender rights, which restroom should these genders use.

    or maybe you morons will admit it's stupid to use gender for restroom designation and instead we should continue to use scientifically based sex identification.
     
  9. ipaman

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    how dare you assume what restrooms AgenderAndrogyneAndrogynousBigenderCisCisgenderCis FemaleCis MaleCis ManCis WomanCisgender emaleCisgender MaleCisgender ManCisgender WomanFemale to MaleFTMGender FluidGender NonconformingGender QuestioningGender ariantGenderqueerIntersexMale to FemaleMTFNeitherNeutroisNon-binaryOtherPangenderTransTrans*Trans FemaleTrans* FemaleTrans MaleTrans* MaleTrans ManTrans* ManTrans PersonTrans* PersonTrans WomanTrans* WomanTransfeminineTransgenderTransgender FemaleTransgender MaleTransgender ManTransgender PersonTransgender WomanTransmasculineTranssexualTranssexual FemaleTranssexual MaleTranssexual ManTranssexual PersonTranssexual WomanTwo-Spirit's use.

    you're a monster!
     
  10. Granville

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    Fair enough
     
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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    I have seen instances where men dressed as women have used the mens room in the past, no one asked them if they actually suffered from transexualism or if it was merely a case of transvestic fettishism so there's really no way of telling what the case was. Either way, it wasn't an issue, it was a bit odd to see someone dressed as a woman using a urinal, but when I go to the bathroom it's because I have to use the restroom....not because I want to talk with people about their odd behavior.

    I imagine it's a lot more common though for trannies to use the women's restroom, especially those that are post op. I would bet that most of the time it's simply not an issue and the very few times where it is an issue is due to it looking more like a cross dresser instead of a true tranny. Like a guy with a beard wearing a dress that stands up to piss might have more of an issue than someone more legit.
     
  12. Granville

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    We need some Libs to step up and tell about the time they saw a Trans at the can heartbroken over not being in the non-crank friendly urinal free women's restroom. If the transgenders don't lift the seat in the women's rest room they will be dead meat no pun intended. Women don't really like the non pop a squat to piss crowd in their restroom.

    True equality is installing a urinal in the women's restroom for those women with a pecker
     
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    How do you plan to prove what a person is or isn't? Does the bill plan for the hiring of restroom monitors across the state to follow people into the stalls?

    Texan republicans = Springfield Bear Patrol

     
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  14. JuanValdez

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    Too complicated. Which is what's so beautiful about self-identification. I don't have to decide which bathroom. The person who needs to pee will decide. I already know which bathroom I would pick. And so do approximately 100% of everyone else.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    So then they should just end the segregation of the sexes entirely and have unisex restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms? I'm not opposed to the idea, I just think that a lot of people will be. If you don't allow for rules as to who uses what facility and just leave it up to whatever any individual person feels like doing at the time then they in effect all become unisex.

    To me that's a bit extreme, which is why I would suggest leaving it as is and letting the individual company or organization make their own rules.....which might be to make it a free for all as you want, but it might also be that they want to keep the facilities separated by sex. This whole nonsense is just trying to fix something that isn't broken because they couldn't come up with a more legitimate cause to drive fundraising.
     
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  16. ipaman

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    Only became an issue because folks want to chose restrooms based on gender not sex. Wouldn't be an issue if that never happened.
     
  17. jo mama

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    i think we would all be better off if everyone minded their own business and stop obsessing over where others are peeing...since there have been no problems with transgendered people assaulting anyone in restrooms and there are already laws against assaulting people or committing lewd acts in restrooms how about if we just leave things the way they are?

    if anything, we need laws against republican politicians...they are the ones who keep getting caught committing lewd acts in restrooms. or how about laws against donald trump, who brags about sexually assaulting women and brags about walking in on miss america (and miss teen america) contestants while they were changing.

    how exactly do you want to enforce the bathroom bill? what would you do if you saw someone that you thought was transgendered go into the restroom? follow them? call the cops?
     
  18. cml750

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    Truth is if we didn't have cities and states trying to fix a problem that never existed, this would not be an issue. We have never had an issue with this before. Like Bobbie said, this is yet another manufactured issue by the left for fundraising and to try to shove an unpopular agenda down everyone's throat(non pun intended). If the left wouldn't have tried to fix an issue that does not exist, laws like this would never even be thought about.
     
  19. ipaman

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    The same way I would be reported if I went into a womans restroom or how any suspect activity is reported.
     
  20. snowconeman22

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    I don't understand the point of this legislation. It just seems frivolous . Anyone care to explain the actual need for this ? Especially balanced against the costs of liberal enterprises retaliating economically .
     

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