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Immigration Words by Clinton/Obama versus Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocketman1981, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    Yup, it's impossible to build a wall like that on mountainous terrain without 2000 year old Chinese technology

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    ....plus we know walls never keep anyone out....except for when they do.

    This is not a winning argument guys, do better.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    I wouldn't expect a lot of people to like that idea, and to be fair, I wasn't suggesting a punishment if people didn't carry it on them, only that it trigger further scrutiny. As it stands you basically need to carry ID on you at all times now, so it really wouldn't change anything.
     
  3. durvasa

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    I like the idea that all legal citizens be provided a form identification that they can use for various purposes (including voting).

    But when does a law enforcement officer decide to demand to see someone's ID? And shouldn't we be weary of racial profiling?
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    I imagine it would be a situation where they would have to have cause to initiate a legal stop, only then would they be able to ask to see it. It's not a perfect solution, but it could be one part of a solution.
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    Here are some more immigration words to compare:

     
  6. Exiled

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    A wall of 2000 miles is not be enough

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  7. ipaman

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    your post is so predictable, didn't even address the video which this thread is about. you must have the mental disorder called liberalism. it's contagious and there's been an outbreak. sorry you've been infected, maybe you can use your obamacare to get treated.
     
  8. Major

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    This is another instance where you simplistic understanding of the world does you a disservice. "Words" are only a small portion of the overall effect on the country. Policy matters too. Trump creates a culture of fear, which harms the country, and opens the door to crime. If you're afraid of the police, you're not going to report crimes that occur to you, which means people go further and further underground. Nothing about Trump's agenda is effective or good here. In case you didn't notice, the number of illegal immigrants in this country declined under Obama - the difference was he did in in a controlled, humane way. You might want to consider not forming your views from 2 minute Youtube video clips that your friends forward to you. It just exposes your ignorance.
     
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  10. dandorotik

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    STFU with your stereotyping of liberalism. I could say the same about conservatism, but I'm not an idiot. Both have good and bad points. Get smart.
     
  11. Tha_Dude

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    Agreed, and this is the best solution to solving illegal immigration. It's also a common sense solution, but republicans and democrats will never support this because the republicans will lose donors and the democrats will lose voters. So it's lose/lose for both parties.
     
  12. bobrek

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    You really think that people that "look white" will be questioned proportionally to those who look Hispanic or Middle Eastern?
     
  13. Rocketman1981

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    Culture of Fear?

    We have been in a culture of fear for a while now Major. People afraid to speak as not to offend people, political correctness
    gone insane, and a culture in which everyone desires to be a victim is not America.

    Crime? When the President of the United States supports black lives matter and blames police for the accidental death of criminals
    by police when the numbers show otherwise is a culture of fear. Obama allowed black youth to believe they are victims which would do
    more to stop them from calling the cops. It also made police much more sheepish in enforcing crime in areas and double digit murder
    rate increase in major cities in 2016. Also many of our officers were assassinated and I blame Obama for fanning the flames of a bullshit
    movement. How is that not a culture of fear??

    So you can talk about how Obama wouldn't say some word to offend someone but was throwing people out of the country and wouldn't
    call it radical Islamic terrorism but would drop tens of thousands of bombs and drone strikes on people all over the world.

    " What you do speaks so loudly i cannot hear what you say" as Ralph Waldo Emerson said.
     
  14. sirbaihu

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    I saw the video. I was unimpressed. What would you have me say?
    OK: yes, the words of Clinton and Trump sound similar. OMG!
    Now I will explain the rest to you: Clinton did not say all that extra bullshit that Trump said, which I posted (and you failed to address). So people did not freak out about bigotry combined with falsehoods in the Clinton era, because Clinton was not bigoted and deceptive like Trump.
     
  15. ipaman

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    Trump companies have/still employ thousands of minorities while Clinton's crime bill destroyed thousands of minorities lives and their families. Are you sure you really know who's bigoted and deceptive? Take the glasses off man. You don't have to like Trump but you should see the Clintons for what they really are.
     
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    This thread is about immigration words. I posted words about Mexican immigrants, the Muslim ban, and The Wall.
    You posted about minorities. What is the relevance?
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    They should, but of course I know we'll hear about it more when people who "look Hispanic" or "look middle eastern" get questioned because that makes for good propaganda. Apparently asking for ID is mistreating people.....
     
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  18. Amiga

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    Don't think aliens can even do this:

    - the wall was build, rebuild and extended over 2000 years by 7+ dynasties
    - the Ming dynasty spent 200 years to build / rebuild the wall (this is the wall we know today)
    - the Qin dynasty uses 1.5 Million to build the wall ; estimated that 400k died building the wall during this period
    - crazy, cool and all, but the defensive wall failed at what matter the most - to keep the Mongols out
     
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    I would like you to identify yourself for no particular reason other than I said so. Please give me your full name, address and ID # so I can make sure you're an American. I've no reason to be suspicious of you not being from here but I'm just asking you to kindly identify yourself for me. I am not mistreating you for being suspicious of your residency status even though I've no reason to be suspicious.
     
  20. ipaman

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    you don't even know how conversations work. smh... go read a book kid, get off the internet.
     

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