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Natl Security Advisor Flynn may have violated law speaking w/ Russians

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    I was completely against Trump even being allowed to run for the GOP nomination.....so it's not like I'm any kind of pro-Trump person. I'd be all for Trump stepping down on general principle, but he hasn't done anything worthy of impeachment thus far.
     
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    You're the normal/regular conservative who still make up the majority of the GOP though. When your demographic says Trump should be impeached, he will be. So if these few stories so far are not enough for Trump to be impeached, it is just not enough.
    My gut says the story is over for now. But I have been wrong about it a few times already this week.
     
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  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Fair enough.
     
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    If Bobby calls for Trump to resign or be impeached, I might have to take him off ignore. It would indicate a glimmer of sanity somewhere in his noggin.

    I'm assuming that if he did that, I'd "hear" about it from the rest of you folks simply by reading your posts.
     
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    So are you comfortable assuming that Flynn is the only one that was involved... and we all should just move on?
     
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    Because, for all the crap about Obama not having the respect of foreign leaders.... the truth is that Russia, and most of the power brokers in global politics have ZERO respect for Trump, and since being elected, Trump has done NOTHING to engender respect.
     
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    It's something that won't go anywhere given that what he did has literally never been successfully prosecuted before so it would be a waste of time and money. I know a lot of people were hoping that a cabinet member violating the Logan Act would be like Watergate, but that's just not gonna be true.
     
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    It's never been prosecuted because intent matters. Yes, newly elected administrations speak to foreign diplomats before they are in office. It's happens. What hasn't happened is officials from the newly elected administration undermining a PUNISHMENT for a foreign nation imposing harm to our nation's democratic process. That is prosecutable if proven. That's treason.
     
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    Was caught lying or misleading FBI. That's a federal felony. Flynn wish this is the end of it. Far from it.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    We saw with the Hillary incident that multiple federal felonies don't mean much when you have political protection by the president's administration.
     
  14. Amiga

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    Being extremely careless is not a crime, as the FBI director have said and you refuses to accept. Anyone that think the FBI as politically friendly to Clinton is a joke at this point.

    Lying to the FBI is. But you might be right anyway. Could be hard to prove that it was an intentional lie, especially if there was no good reason to do so. I'm sure the FBI want to understand why and the intent. All the other Russian-related investigations will also shed more lights. Not the end of it.
     
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    SMH, go ahead and continue to embarrass yourself trying to go to bat for Hillary, but it's clear that she committed several felonies. It's why I can't take you seriously when you try to post about what Flynn did. If you can't even admit that Hillary mishandled classified information by storing it and sending it via private servers, something that is blatantly obvious, then there's nothing to discuss. I mean allowing top secret information to end up on David Weiner's p*rn laptop is the very definition of gross negligence.....but by all means, prove that you can't see past partisanship.
     
  16. Amiga

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    LOL. I'm not the one that think the FBI is politically friendly to Clinton, or is ignoring what the FBI stated.
     
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    LOL, no you aren't ignoring the statement they made, you are ignoring the actual statutes that were violated (BTW, the statement by the FBI director indicates that there was evidence she violated the law, it just incorrectly states what the law says) and the history of prosecuting similar offences.....and you are doing so out of partisanship. It's cool though. I understand how it works.

    Flynn committed a felony when he violated the Logan Act, something that has literally never been successfully prosecuted because it's damn near impossible to prove in court sufficiently. Hillary committed multiple felonies while Secretary of State that are prosecuted all the time when you don't happen to have that level of political protection that can put pressure on the FBI to ignore it and a party loyal Attorney General that doesn't want to have to prosecute to begin with.
     
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    The statement is she didn't commit a crime. It doesn't matter how much you want to spin or provide falsehood, that simple fact is not going to change.

    As for Flynn, FBI was concern enough about him to warn officials. The case will continue until FBI conclude their investigation.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, so me telling you what the law actually says is "spinning" and false? Yeah, you just keep killing that credibility. I do understand that she's going to get away with breaking the law due to her political protection, but you simply can't know the law and suggest that she didn't violate it given what is public knowledge about what she did.

    You might as well say that Trump said that Flynn didn't break the law thus he didn't break the law. That's about the level that you are operating on right now.
     
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    lol @txtony talking to himself.

    Ehh, I think it's better than nothing. These investigations sometimes go places Congress didn't intend. If the IG looks for the leakers, they might start learning about why they are leaking. I'll accept any investigation that is remotely relevant because we need to know what's going on here.
     
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