Not really. If we were $30m under the cap with the Ibakas and Millsaps seeking $30m+, would you take Corey Brewer for $7.6m? I don't understand why people are delinking two things that constitute trade value. Contract and productivity. If he is a negative player on the court, that affects his trade value even if it's the MLE. That's money to an owner, it's money to a GM. Why would you pay for less than nothing when you can just not pay and have nothing?
How much would you pay for a 1st round pick? 2nd round? Lin was at least productive and carried marketing value with him; it still took a 1st to unload him. Brewer is dead weight and is owed $7.6m. Would you pay that much for a 2nd round pick? I doubt it, it'll take a 1st to unload him.
In negotiations the price of something is not based on the intrinsic value of something, but rather the perception. the scarcity of the resource and the desperation of the parties involved. In the case of the Rox, other teams aren't dumb. If they're dumping Brewer then they know that's because the Rox want to sign somebody good. Help out a future contender sign a 15M guy? Then they will obviously ask for a 1st round pick in exchange. I mean think about it, Jlin is pretty decent for a bench guy, his contract was reasonable at 7M, and he has some fan hype. He's the kind of player teams will pay a pick to get, yet the Rox ended up giving out a 1st round pick to clear space. Also, in comparison to Lin Brewer's perception around the league right now is he should be end of bench guy, he doesn't defend or rebound exceptionally well, has shaky handles and he can't shoot. So he's practically dead weight and overpaid contract at 7M, doubt you can get rid of him for a 2nd round pick.
I don't think we can compare Brewer to the Lin situation. At that time, everybody knew that the Rockets needed to try to unload Lin's contract to clear cap space because we thought we were going to get Chris Bosh. We had absolutely no leverage in that situation and were forced to unload him whatever the cost. And, of course, Bosh ended up not coming anyway.
Well because they do HAVE to spend a certain amount of money. Teams keep players as bad as Brewer around all the time for money in his range. He'll be less than an MLE contract this summer. There are tons of players over the years with MLE or less contracts that are pretty bad and they stick on rosters. To your point about Ibaka and Millsap seeking $30, agreed that if you are a team who intends to pursue free agents of that type then you will have zero interest in taking a contract. However, if you are a rebuilding team you aren't going to go after those guys anyway. They won't sign with you and they don't help you enough to bother with. You have to sign someone. For those teams Brewer's $7 million isn't a big a deal. That doesn't mean they WANT him, it just means that if you are making a trade with them it isn't a deal killer like it would be for other teams.
Dude, $15m cash, $8.3m on cap, and easily Lin because someone was willing to pay him $12m/yr + trade kicker, but Brewer next year ... He could end up getting vets min and follow the career of Toney Douglas bouncing around till out of league
People pay MLE for mediocre talent because they thought the player was mediocre. Brewer isn't fooling anyone for mediocre, not after the last 2 years + a career of shooting 28% on 3s in today's league that emphasizes outside shooting.
The Brewer hate is strong with this group. I get it. The guy can't score worth anything. His defense has been OK. Would you guys rather have a Portland situation like they do with Evan Turner and Allen Crabbe? That's an overpay. Portland got hoodwinked hard there. Brew might be overpaid for how we play him, but there definitely is a market for him. Plus his numbers will dramatically improve next year, being a contract year and all. Maybe?
He can't shoot but he at least hustles and plays decent defense. He seems like a good guy too. 80% of the league (I have not researched it but I say it with confidence so it must be true) has a guy on their team getting paid this much with this type of production. He's the 2017 pigmentally gifted and financially secure Ryan Bowen.
Let's go through and I won't draw any conclusions, but here are players on teams making roughly (within near 1.5 mil) what he makes: Cle- Channing Frye Por- Aminu, Davis, Harkless Det- Baynes, Ish Smith Lac - Reddick SAS - Tim Duncan Mavs- Dwight Powell Mem- Wright? Sort of? Tor- Pat Pat, Joseph GSW- Jason Thompson Wiz- Morris, Nickleson ORL- Augistin, Meeks NYK- Lance Thomas Char- Lamb, Bellineli, Sessons Mia- Ellington NOP- Moore? Mil- no one in that price range ATL- splitter CHI - Gibson? SAC- Tolliver, Temple, Kufos, Barnes LAL- Williams, Calderone, Black BOS- Crowder, Thomas, Zeller OKC- Olladipo IND- Stucky, Teague Min- Aldgridge, KG UTA- Diaw, Hill PHX - no one Den-Arthur Phi- Landry, Rodriquez, Illyosova BKN- Booker?
He would take a 2nd rounder to take off our hands. It's not that bad a contract for a bench guy, but he is playing below replacement. I like the idea of KJ, Brewer, a 1st, and a 2nd for Gallinari.
