Natl Security Advisor Flynn may have violated law speaking w/ Russians

I think the situation surrounding Trump is getting so bad that eventually the popular opinion of the public, driven by the Fourth Estate's on-going investigation into the election in November, will demand a full inquiry. Here's food for thought. During Watergate, some of the key players in Congress that brought down Nixon were Republicans. Sure, this isn't the Republican Party of the 1970's (and the GOP is worse off for the dramatic change we see today), but they still need to win elections to retain power. In my opinion, it will force their hand. They will have no choice.

 

I, for one, hope the GOP continues to lack the desire to investigate this story. What is going on here is obvious to any citizen with a brain. More power to GOP if they want to ignore this, as far as I'm concerned. Ignore it until November 2018.

 

Spicer's explanation at the press briefing today seems backwards. He essentially is arguing that Flynn did nothing wrong or illegal and that the issue was that Flynn lost the president's trust. He also claims Trump fired Flynn rather than Flynn resigning on his own accord.

To me that explanation seems really problematic especially with the level of leaks from this White House. The White House is now on record claiming that Flynn didn't do anything wrong. Even if Congress refuses to investigate, the White House's inability to control leaks means that this could easily blow up in their face if it comes out that the administration was advised that Flynn's actions were illegal.

Such a stupid defense. They should've just said that Flynn went rogue, broke protocol, and they had to let him go after completing a review of Flynn's actions. Instead, they came up with this stupid defense today. This White House is truly clueless.

 

This is pretty standard for any white house.

 

Spinning a story is totally normal. I just think they spun it incorrectly. Also, unlike other administrations, Trump can't control the leaks coming from agencies and the White House. They need to be smarter about this stuff. Also, this isn't dying quickly. They better pray that they don't lose one of the houses of Congress in 2 years because the Democrats will go full Benghazi committee on this stuff. They need to be thinking long term about this.

 

They never think long term and the spin is always problematic.

The reality is though that the WH has spun this in a way that makes the Trumpeters happy. I already got an earful today about how Trump is so much better than Obama because he got rid of the guy for being a distraction when Obama never fired anyone.

 

Want to know how I know why people don't take you seriously? It's childish crap like this post. I don't know if this is an online only character you're playing or if you're seriously this immature and easily triggered.

 

I thought the opposite. If they say what he did was illegal, and it later leaks that Flynn did it on orders from Trump himself, then they indict themselves by admitting the crime. It's better to say the way they interpret the law it was fine, and force the opposition to prove them wrong in court.

 

Actually, kind people put you on the ignore list, and mean people like me keep you around for an easy punching bag.

 

Well if it comes out that Flynn did this on orders of Trump then I think they're in big trouble regardless of the legality. And frankly, I don't expect the courts to ever adjudicate this. The end result is just media stories and possibly Congressional hearings. The courts aren't going to do anything in my opinion. Pass this off as Flynn being a rogue might be the easier play in the long run but I see your point. I just think Spicer's response is just asking for someone to leak that the DOJ or an intelligence agency thought that Flynn's conversation was illegal.

 

If it's illegal, why did they wait so long to "fire" him? They had little choice but to said a lost of trust, since they kept him around until that trust finally waded. Of course, that's the spin. The real story --- need an investigation to know; or more leaks to come.

 

Obama was known for throwing people like Van Jones and Shirley Sherrod under the bus.

Conservatives hate hate hatred Eric Holder. If trump is the anti-Obama, then Sessions is the anti-holder

 

Reality doesn't matter here. According to Trumpeters, there was no accountability in the Obama white house, no one ever lost their job, etc. They point to Lois Lerner as proof.

 

Has this been posted? An interview with Republican Andrew Sullivan about Trump's mental stability. It is right on target. Click on the link.

http://ht3.cdn.turner.com/money/big...---andrew-sullivan-intv.cnnmoney_1024x576.mp4

 

Why would Flynn lie about doing nothing wrong?

 

LOL..... first of all, its obvious that about 30 to 40% of Americans at least have some sort of Brain malfunction when it comes to politics at least. It is true though that the longer the stink Trump & Co. continue to splurge onto the GOP the longer it will take to wash the stink off which will hurt the GOP's chances at retaining the House, senate, etc.

If Dems only goal is to win back the House in 18 & Presidency in 2020, then sure, they should hope that the GOP continue to bury any potential investigations into Russian ties to Trump, conflicts of interest etc. The longer they can combine the Trump political brand with the GOP the more they can bury the GOP brand for the foreseeable future.

However if the goal here is "Country above Party" then I have to say that the right thing to do is to get him out ASAP, and allow the lesser of two evils (Pence, Ryan....assuming he'll have a hand in constructing the new Pence Whitehouse run by the GOP regulars) to run the country in a way where the world doesn't end in a nuclear firestorm & what is left is the country being run why a Neo Nazi Breitbart run government with Alex Jones as the new senior adviser (how much do you want to bet Trump has tried to get him in that Press Room?).

It will be harder to win against a Pence that recovers from the Trump stink & wins back moderate conservatives for sure. But if he stays in power for 4 years the detriment that he will do to our country might do more damage for the next 100 years that potentially another 4 years of Pence & Ryan could do.

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What's shocking to me though is that the Political-Brainless 30 to 40% aren't at least self aware enough about their own political views to not be pushing with their every breath to get Trump impeached. He served his purpose to beat Hillary Clinton by suppressing the vote by making a mockery of our political system, but Trump only hurts their path to implementing their agenda LONG TERM. If I was a Republican Right Winger I'd be pushing for an impeachment ASAP in order to put Pence in charge along with Ryan & Co. to continue to let Wall Street loose, remove taxes for the wealthy, and put the Christian agenda above other religions in the US. Trump only complicates things for that right wing agenda & ensures a short two years of Republican reign. Pence however.... gives them a better shot for long term sustained right wing agenda... with more stability. Its incredible that they seem to NOT want that.

 

FBI interviewed Flynn. Could become a felony charge.

The WH was told nearly 3 weeks ago, but didn't take any action, until at least it was breaking news. Why did they wait so long?

F.B.I. Interviewed Flynn in Trump’s First Days in Office, Officials Say

The interview raises the stakes of what so far has been a political scandal that cost Mr. Flynn his job. If he was not entirely honest with the F.B.I., it could expose Mr. Flynn to a felony charge.
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Shortly after the F.B.I. interview, on Jan. 26, the acting attorney general, Sally Q. Yates, told the White House that Mr. Flynn was vulnerable to Russian blackmail because of inconsistencies between what he had said publicly and what intelligence officials knew to be true.

 

Which is truly amusing, given that Obama fired this same guy from DIA before Trump hired him.

 

It is truly bizarre. Well put, dobro.

(not that I agree with that agenda, but still!)

 

I listed the Right Wing agenda tongue n cheek of course. But in the end its what the key issues boil down to that the GOP establishment pushes that is terrible IMO, but its not world ending like Trump's agenda (or at least the agenda of the dark nationalist/alt-right/neo nazi's in his ear taking advantage of an old man with an ax to grind against the world).

If you are a Right Wing Conservative than good for you... enjoy your agenda & trickle down economics (that hasn't worked since the Reagan years), but you're an idiot if you think a Trump presidency is better than a Pence presidency for your agenda to be accomplished longterm.