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[politico] President Trump Has Done Almost Nothing

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  1. Invisible Fan

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    The article's point is for the reader to separate the words from tangible actions. Bluster serves as good partisan signalling but hardly an adequate substitute for actionable policy. That battle will begin when Congress returns from recess.

    Glass half full or half empty? Take another shot.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/president-trump-has-done-almost-nothing-214775

    Just weeks into Donald Trump’s presidency, you would think that everything had changed. The uproar over the president’s tweets grows louder by the day, as does concern over the erratic, haphazard and aggressive stance of the White House toward critics and those with different policy views. On Sunday, White House aide Stephen Miller bragged, “We have a president who has done more in three weeks than most presidents have done in an entire administration.”

    But Miller was dead wrong about this. There is a wide gap, a chasm even, between what the administration has said and what it has done. There have been 45 executive orders or presidential memoranda signed, which may seem like a lot but lags President Barack Obama’s pace. More crucially, with the notable exception of the travel ban, almost none of these orders have mandated much action or clear change of current regulations. So far, Trump has behaved exactly like he has throughout his previous career: He has generated intense attention and sold himself as a man of action while doing little other than promote an image of himself as someone who gets things done.

    It is the illusion of a presidency, not the real thing.

    The key problem here is understanding Trump’s executive orders and presidential memoranda. Trump very quickly seized on the signing of these as media opportunities, and each new order and memo has been staged and announced as dramatic steps to alter the course of the country. Not accustomed to presidents whose words mean little when it comes to actual policy, opponents have seized on these as proof that Trump represents a malign force, while supporters have pointed to these as proof that Trump is actually fulfilling his campaign promises.

    Neither is correct. The official documents have all the patina of “big deals” but when parsed and examined turn out to be far, far less than they appear. Take the order authorizing the construction of a border wall between the United States and Mexico. The relevant section of the January 25 order read: “It is the policy of the executive branch to … secure the southern border of the United States through the immediate construction of a physical wall on the southern border, monitored and supported by adequate personnel so as to prevent illegal immigration, drug and human trafficking, and acts of terrorism.” That sounds indeed like an order to fulfill a controversial campaign promise. The problem? Congress initially passed a Secure Fence Act in 2006 that required the construction of nearly 700 miles of fortified border. By 2011, under the Obama administration, most of that was completed, with a mix of pedestrian fencing and vehicle fortifications. Since then, there has only been minimal funding for further fortifications.

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  2. Cohete Rojo

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    Has done almost nothing? He burnt down the Reichstag, imprisoned the Jews, and invaded Poland!
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    Fortunately we have our judicial system that protects us from that stuff... I hope.
     
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    He has said and done all the right things to maintain support from his voter base.

    The appearance of tons of jobs being created and the govt saving money through "renegotiating"
    The appearance of terrorists and violent illegal immigrants being kept/kicked out of the country (whereas obummer had an open border policy apparently)
    The appearance of actively removing liberal influence in our classrooms
    The appearance of attacking pro choice head on with the EO and appointing a conservative judge
    And of course, attacking the msm for "fake news"

    It's early, but im even seeing them laud Flynn because he is being portrayed as an honorable soldier jumping on a grenade from the msm. Unbelievable
     
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  5. Amiga

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    Half empty. It's not how much you have done, it's how nutty of the things you are doing. The train wreck has just started.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    The window dresser in cheif.
     
  7. Commodore

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    if Gorsuch is confirmed, ACA repealed, tax cuts enacted, wall built, that would be a wildly successful term, and he doesn't need Democratic votes for any of it
     
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  8. No Worries

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    You would have figured that Trump would have grabbed a p***y if not two, by now.
     
  9. Amiga

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    what?

    doesn't need Gorsuch to repeal ACA, to enact tax cuts, to build a wall

    n/m i misread you
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Window dressing at its finest. ACA is not going to be repealed for a while unless it's just repackaged into a different name when they realize that keeping very popular statutes like prexisting conditions is mathmatically impossible without the other key provision of the act which is the mandate. Now that GOP legislatures figures or how much their constituents love those statutes, they are more hesitant then ever in proclaiming out right they it's going to be fully replaced.

    It's like when a dog finally catches that red car. They have no ****ing clue what to do with it once they catch it.
     
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    What were the specific tax cuts drafted up?
     
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    If ACA confirmed without expanding coverage, lowering costs, without improving access, and covering everybody, including pre-existing conditions (all Trump promises) then Trump is a failure.
    If tax cuts are enacted, favoring the wealthy, extending the wealth disparity, and grows the national debt, then Trump was a failure.
    If he builds a symbolic wall, at enormous cost to taxpayers, and extends the national debt in the process, Trump was a failure.
    And if Gorsuch is confirmed? There's a doubt? Pretty low bar IMO... but sure, that may be his only success.
     
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    Relevant video. We have a child running the most powerful military in human history.
     
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    Blasphemy, Chowdface has a list of 100 things he has already done wrong. This article can't be right.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    Everything he has done is within the parameters of 'superficial window dressing' from the 6 country ban to his plethora of orher executive orders that he barely reads (leaks from Whitehouse staff).

    He signs **** and paces around Mar-a-Lago sitting of other heads of states how lavish his life is. He apparently loves showing off the Oval office also.
     
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    I have no idea who that guy is, or what the website is, but what the man said is dead solid on target. Well worth watching, folks.
     
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  18. ipaman

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    He's Alex Jones on the left. A real POS.
     
  19. ipaman

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    Don't show the libidiots this or they'll break your windows and burn your house down for lying. Don't you know he's the worst thing that has ever happened to America!!
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I love playing the game of false equavilency. Let's begin! I'll post some of the craziest Alex Jones videos and you can post the craziest Cenk Uger videos. And I'm not referring to rants about policy that you subjectively disagree with. I'm talking about pure batshit insane stuff like the videos below.

     

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