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Serge Ibaka on Trade Block

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by 13 in 33, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. Ming The King

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    Agree. We cant go into the playoffs with Capela and Anderson as our bigs.
    Gasol and Randolph will destroy us. We cant get a rebound in that battle.
    And please no more post with trade offers for Ibaka like" i will only trade Brewer, kj and Ennis " . You are trading nothing. They has NO value. And Brewer situation is even worst with his two year contract. So grow up, we have to give something to get a player like Ibaka. Miami gives 2 1st to get Dragic "rental".
     
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  2. Amel

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    I wouldnt mind giving up Harrell. I love the guy but hes young and is better of somewhere else where he can pick up additional minutes in his early career.

    Harrell, Brewer and KJ and we get a second rounder packaged with Ibaka
     
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  3. Ming The King

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    I think this is Morey idea
    ORL probably is pushing for Dekker and a 1sr and Morey is offering Harrel and a 2nd
     
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    This is suggesting what I'm suggesting. Ryan Anderson to a team that wants him (I say Sacramento). Then pieces from that team to the Magic or Heat for somethings we need.

    There is a certain synergy with Sacramento's roster. Koufas, Collison, Casspi, and Gay expiring. Collison would be a nice fit here.

    To the poster suggesting it is a farce to start Casspi here.....my thought was a true small ball line-up with Ariza moving to the 4. If we add a stud like dragic, I could very easily see Bev/Dragic on the wings with Ariza at the 4. A perimeter combination of Harden, Bev, Dragic or Collison, Gordon, Ariza, Dekker, Casspi is two complete teams of 1 thru 4 with plenty of switching ability defensively, plenty of defense, plenty of great spot-up shooting, and a good balance of handles and playmaking. That's a group of guys that make us very multi-dimensional on the perimeter and leave us with a killer perimeter group for the entire 48 minutes. Put a couple studs in the middle.....Ibaka or Whiteside and Nene....And that's a banging group.
     
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    I wouldn't give up Harrell.

    He is going to be a 12-15 point a game guy after he gets a more consistent jump shot.
     
  6. Bennie Anders

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    Orlando wants nothing to do with Brewer or KJ, trailer-park.
     
  7. Vivi

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    Care to explain this? I'm not sure i understand :/
     
  8. DonKnock

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    Rabbit Act probably means the Magic :D
     
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  9. Cstyle42

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    Exactly good post
     
  10. YaoMing#1

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    First of all Ryan Anderson is honestly just as good on the boards as Ibaka so what is that saying about Ibaka???

    Second Ryan Anderson brings something that no other player 6'10 can do besides Durant and that's a quick release from three and beyond while still shooting it at 40+ %.

    Having a PF that can realistically maintain those % for long stretches of a whole season on high volume is actually an elite skill set which is something Ibaka doesn't have, he's just good to okay at a lot of things but does nothing elite.

    I'm all for getting Ibaka for brewer/Kj/Harrell/1st round pick. For a rental that's actually a pretty high price but it does knock out two birds with one stone. Helps the rockets now with just more talent while also clearing up cap space for near max money in the offseason to go after a real allstar/superstar.

    If Ibaka is the missing piece for a chip this year than even better but he's not a guy you pay 15-20m on a team like this.

    The rockets team is set we're one star mac level player from being a real contender second best team in the NBA.

    But in order for that to happen you have to add that without losing harden/Anderson/Gordon/bev/CapelaNone of those guys can be included in any trade.

    Anderson might not be worth 20m he might not be even a starter on some teams but if he's your 4th best player on a team with harden/allstar/Gordon than you have a elite team. Not to mention with guys like bev and Capela right behind him.

    I think Morey knows this.

    This team has the 2nd best record through 57 games in franchise history. We're trying to win chips and in order to do that you don't break up this core. You figure out how to keep
    It intact and add that last star player.

    Which is very hard but houston has to be the number 1 destination imo for any star level player that really wants to compete for rings. 3rd best record in the NBA, now come be our missing piece to getting past the Warriors.

    Boston is close second, they have a nice team too but as much as I like IT harden is just better and actually can play defense.
     
  11. thedude077

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    How is it so hard to trade Capela and a First round pick to the Magic for Ibaka?
     
  12. DrNuegebauer

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    Because then we don't have a C.

    It is a terrible idea!
     
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    How is that terrible? Ibaka is perfect for the team. He is better than Capela, he will bring better defense and rebounding.
     
  14. xiki

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    Stein sez SI is 'in play'. Neglected to mention Rox.
     
  15. val_modus

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    False. Ibaka averages about 7 rebounds per game in about 31 minutes, while Capela averages about 8 in around 23 minutes. For a team that desperately needs rebounding, an Ibaka for Capela swap would not be ideal.
     
  16. robbie380

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    He isn't a center and he doesn't rebound that well.
     
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    So after saying all this you can honestly tell every member on this board Anderson would defensively hold Aldridge, Griffin, Randolph, Kanter, Draymon Green or other physical power forward the way Ibaka could in playoff atmosphere?
     
  18. Drogba

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    One thing is certain, we can't persist with Ryno as the starting 4 considering he's so inconsistent offensively & isn't a negative defender.

    Morey needs to work his magic somehow.
     
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  19. YaoMing#1

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    We're did I say that?

    Ibaka is also just avg in rim protection this season so are you 100% sure he can also?

    Every team but the Warriors have matchups that can be exploited.

    What game this year did we lose because the other teams PF just took over and won it for them?

    I'm for getting Ibaka but not at the expense of trading Anderson.

    You keep talent in order to win. Ibaka is a nether player sure but swapping him out for Anderson doesn't make us better it might result in a few more loses. We don't beat the Warriors without Anderson we don't give ourselves a chance against them either with out Anderson.

    Would I trade Anderson for a superstar? Of course. But Ibaka is not a superstar he's not even an allstar. Dude is a career 12/6.5 guy who has a decent outside jumper and used to be a good rim protector.

    Harden and this offense which this team is an offensive team needs the spacing and shooting Ryno provides it really quite simple.

    Our offense was league avg in the games Ryno sat because of the flu, since he came back we've been back in the top of the league. That's not a coincidence.

    The team has also been a top 5 defense for over 25 games with Anderson starting.

    You can't have it all unless your the Golden state warriors.
     
  20. MystikArkitect

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    Ibaka would likely guarantee a WCF appearance. Give up Dekker and Harrell and a 1st. Are you guys willing to roll the dice with this lineup, this year, with this Harden and this scheme or wait until Harrell and Dekker develop into basically another couple of role players?

    Even if Ibaka bolts who cares? The Rockets have done enough to attract other FAs (Griffin anyone?) this offseason, especially if they have another conference finals trip. This move is a no brainer.

    Harden, Bev, Ibaka, Capela, Anderson with Nene, Brewer, and Gordon coming off the bench is solid. Plus the Ibaka/Harden vs Durant story arc would be juicy as hell.
     
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