Trump Signs Order to Restrict Refugees from 7 Countries But Not Saudi Arabia

most overturned court in the country makes questionable ruling, surprising no one

 

Not surprising since the 9th is the go to court for supporting the left. Given the language of the statute Trump acted under, my prediction is it will be overturned as 80% of their rulings have been.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Ninth_Circuit

 

Unanimous 3-0 vote, including a George W appointee

 

Trump dumb and mad. Just issue a much better thought out EO. But he won't

 

purveyor of alternative facts / fake news

 

The supreme court will decide on this soon

 

they may not care to even take it on

 

Highly unlikely. This is more than just an Executive Order. This has become a Constitutional Crisis because the courts are questioning the ability of whether the President is able to control immigration as laid out in the Constitution and Federal law. Essentially, they are saying they don't like or trust his judgement therefore have the right to stop him from carrying out his Constitutional duties.

 

Did you even read the ruling? I'm going to guess not. That's a far out statement without reading it.

EDIT: I should add - You may have bought into the Trump's message. That's just sad and where potential crisis will come up later. When common intelligent folks start to buy into the Trump's message. The court rule on the laws, period. This must trust the Executive and ignore the law sh*t is crap.

 

No longer accurate, at least in 2012. But I think this is pretty meaningless anyway.

 

No not yet. It just came out.

Regardless of how the legal brief was written, the results are unambiguous. The court has decided they have the right to overturn a Presidential Executive Order on Illegal Immigration. Simple as that.

Now we'll see what the Supreme Court says.

 

Read it, or an article that explain it (NPR is a good source). It's very narrow.

 

Actually they aren't. They are just maintaining that the President's actions are reviewable as laid out by the system of checks and balances in the constitution of the United States. Trump's lawyers argued that the president's EO was not reviewable by the courts. Their position was there should be no check and balance allowed on it.

 

This is the last paragraph of the ruling. It appears they weighed the public need of foreigners for free flow of travel to be more important than the needs of national security and the ability of an elected president to enact policies.

 

They also said that Trump's attorney's didn't really provide evidence that it was a matter of national security. It seemed like they were saying had Trump's lawyer's actually provided evidence that the old laws weren't protecting us, and that we needed this new one, it might have been okay.

If Trump would actually work with some people who new what they were doing and rewrite the whole order, it might pass.

Also we don't know that it will go to the Supreme court yet. It might go to the larger 11 judge ruling option still with the same circuit court.

 

It would be interesting to see if the USSC is likely to overturn lower court rulings where the lower courts showed so much agreement. Basically two unanimous rulings among the two lower courts. As someone else suggested, the USSC may not even consider this. If they do, and overturn the lower courst, it would sure seem a more activist role by the USSC...

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...immigration-ban-is-clumsy-but-perfectly-legal

The president’s authority to declare such suspensions can been found in section 212(f) of the INA, the pertinent part of which reads as follows:

I don't see anything in this statute discussing the burden of proof that a President has to provide to any court in order to act upon information he receives and they don't concerning National Security. Can you point to such a Federal Law that requires the President to provide such evidence before enacting an immigration Executive Order?

 

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