I mean of course I'd rather give up rights to llull or gentile over shee . Don't agree with you on Dekker tho . Sam has already shown a lot of promise and has incredible potential if he can shoot consistently .
If it takes Dekker as cherry on the sundae to get Ibaka and Hezonja, I'm taking that deal and not looking back. Zhou Qi is not going to make or break any deal.
I'm confused as to what you are proposing . I was talking about JUST Hezonjia not ibaka too . Ibaka too would require quite a lot of outgoing salary and of course I wouldn't be opposed to adding Dekker in . However in a trade for JUST Hezonjia , I'd prefer to include Joe shee over Dekker . That was my original response to you . I think Dekker is > than Joe
Oh, thought we were talking about a Magic trade with Ibaka as primary piece. In any case, still believe Qi's upside is higher than Dekker's.
There are 2 sides to every trade and the Clippers can get a better player for Blake Griffin than Ryan Anderson. The talent gap is just too large, it would NEVER HAPPEN.
Got it. Cody Zeller is the white Ibaka just because you said it. Even if you're incapable of explaining it. Can't wait to hear you expectorate more of your truth.
Not incapable of explaining it. You didn't ask me to explain what makes him like Serge. You asked why he hasn't won DPY. (See, if you want to be smart-alec, I can feed it right back to you. But if you want to have a good dialogue, we can do that too.)
Ibaka is known for his defense, it is what made him elite. He was a 3x 1st team NBA All Defense and led NBA in blocks 2 consecutive seasons. His offense is good but not elite. Unless you mean Zeller also speaks Lingala and French.
i'm warming to the idea of ibaka in rockets red. he's exactly what we need in a 2-way player. a quiet veteran leader who'll mesh well with james. also think the allegations about him being older than listed are unlikely. still have wilson chandler #1, but getting that deal done is probably tougher.
When was the last time a star was traded for a star? It's all about fit. I guess you think that bc Anderson isn't a superstar that LAC would never trade Blake for him but I bet you if they got Melo and fillers to round out that roster I bet you everyone becomes available. GSW best year came at the hands of players such as Barbosa, Livingston, Speights, Ezeli, Bogut, Barnes, and Iggy who are all far from superstars yet they go on to win a championship bc the fit was great and everyone played they role. Anyone who thinks that no team would kill to have that supporting cast is crazy, any team would rather have that and be guaranteed a championship over a superstar all day. So like I've said, I'm not comparing star with star I'm comparing star with what fits and if LA plans to go after Melo they are going to HAVE TO JUST HAVE TO spread that floor rather than clog the paint and the best way to do that is surrounding Paul with shooters. Playing 4 out would allow for easy penetration and wide open ally-ops and if that's not open you have shooters and play makers on the perimeter. You don't need DJ being an offensive machine bc that's not what he's good at, he's good at the P&R which usually translate to a 4 out offensive on the brink of success. Trust me I know it sounds far fetched at that LA would never consider such a trade but Paul is getting old and he needs a better offensive cast bc the D is there they just need consistent scorers around him.
Zeller is never going to live up to the hype, but he's still a solid player. The +/- data is undeniable. The Hornets are drastically better both offensively and defensively with him on the floor.
His stats are very impressive save for ppg and rpg. Harden can help the former, but we need a big that's going to go up and get the ball.
You are probably right. But that's about as far as I would go from the Rockets point of view considering the "risk" of Ibaka as a UFA. Not adding Dekker to that deal.
The only reason I don't think he comes here is money. He will want a max contract. NO, he's not worth max, but he should be trying to get it. Rockets should try to arrange a deal that nets them an contract agreement that works for both sides, but there's no way his representatives aren't pushing for him to hit UFA and squeeze for a max. This really would be an ideal situation for him though.
