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Why do you guys bother with the far right supporters?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by crossover, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Deckard

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    An excellent post, txtony. While the numbers may be close instead of exact, it highlights what I've complained about here (and in "real life") for years. The United States isn't nearly as conservative as the far-right/alt-right try to make it out to be, in my humble opinion. Heck, Texas isn't as conservative as the GOP claims, either. The big problem moderates, progressives, and liberals have in this country is that people don't bother to vote, and it's my strong opinion that the majority of those non-voters would vote for a moderate/progressive candidate if they would drag themselves to the polls.

    It irritates the hell out of me. Our democracy is in danger because so many Americans are simply lazy, too lazy to care.
     
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  2. Dei

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    What makes you assume they will all vote Dem?
     
  3. MojoMan

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    How can someone know if they are "far right" in your view? Is it just an unwillingness to embrace the Democrat left's "Political correctness" agenda?
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    If you are right of Obama, you'd be considered "far right" on this board.
     
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  5. crossover

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    This video highlights the difficulty with a good percentage of Trump supporters atm. Yes, they are ridiculing them, which I don't condone. But they bluntly allowed themselves to become ignorant, make decisions on hate and fear, and filled with a feeling of entitlement. The status quo won't change for these people unless they go out and change their culture. They deserve blame and the big institutions that engineered and profit from their suffering deserve bigger blame.
     
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    If you looked at the numbers in 2008 and 2012, wouldn't essentially the same argument be made? That being that the majority didn't vote for Obama either?


    The argument of "waiting for the old folks to die" is the same argument that has been the mantra of the left for generations now. But the interesting thing is, the right is still here and stronger than it has ever been in my lifetime.
     
  7. cml750

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    That is because with age comes wisdom. All the lost young people eventually grow up and a majority of them wake up and realize the truth. For every school and media brainwashed head full of mush youth, is another who is finally waking up and seeing the world clearly for the first time leaving their leftist BS behind. An example of the ones who never come to their senses can be seen right here in the D & D on a daily basis.
     
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  8. Amiga

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    Yes, absolutely. We should have more participation, but sadly we don't. It has been low for a few decades now. Also why it's ridiculous to not do what we can to increase turnout but the exact opposite in many places in the US.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The people on the far right like Bobby, bigtexxx, Dei, RL, Theresthedagger, CML, and others are just not very educated and easy to manipulate into fearing people who are not white:

    The Arabs want to terrorize us
    The Chinese are stealing from us
    The Mexicans are invading us
    The Indians are taking our jobs
    The Blacks are lazy and want to feed on us

    This is the wei these people think and feel. Only whites are good. Make America White again!
     
  10. Amiga

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    I remember reading a few studies on this. They show that politically lending are made up in their 20s. How they lend is more a reflection of the time while they were growing up than anything else. This surprises me, and is actually kind of sad.
     
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    What color am I "Sweet" Lou?
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    Yep, studies have been done. That whole narrative is false. It basically comes down to who the presidents are while you are growing up and if they leave a good impression on you while doing so. For example if Trump continues to be a horrible president then I imagine you won't have many young people being conservative.

    The complete irony is lost on them. The follow the party of "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't blame anyone else!" all while they blame black and brown people for whatever issue they have. They think government should stay out of their lives...all at the same time government should enforce their religious ideology onto others.

    That video is not surprising at all unfortunately.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    The board is infinitely better with that simpleton on ignore. I'm not big on outright ignoring people, because I feel that it's best to entertain a wide range of opinions in any discussion......but yeah, some people are just worthless.
     
  14. BigDog63

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    And Sweet Lou continues to illustrate the tolerance and inclusiveness of the left, as well as how they are the ones who stereotype, make unfounded claims (can you list the education level of ANY of those people, SweetLou? In fact, can you list anything you know about any of them at all? Most of them probably aren't even far right, except according the liberal definition of 'far right' which is 'anyone who doesn't completely agree with everything they say'), and can't put a sentence together without throwing insults into it. Then having the gall to call out the other sides ignorance and ease of manipulation.

    Further, I'm not sure anyone on the far left should be speaking of other's 'fear' right now, when they are clearly the ones exhibiting it.

    This is typical of your posts since the election, and it doesn't reflect well on you.
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    Your annoyance with Sweet Lou is noted. And while I believe his post was political satire directed at posters he believes to post extreme right wing statements, I also believe that your annoyance at what he posted would carry more substance if you would also express the same annoyance (or any level of annoyance, for that matter) when posters on the right also are as highly critical of those they perceive as "on the left" (and who employ many of the same devices including insults and "satire"). Otherwise you simply appear partisan, which you claim a disdain for.
     
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    Are, are you r****ded? You make a blanket statement against freedom of speech and your response is to make a comment about fake crying? I've never even been to California. You need to seek medical attention, immediately, your brain is not healthy.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Seriously? I thought you were an adjunct at Boalt Hall.

    I will have to seriously rethink all of this.
     
  18. MojoMan

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    Sam Fisher is troll, plain and simple. You would be wise to manage your interactions with him accordingly.
     
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  19. BigDog63

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    Fair enough. I DO try to point out extremism, wherever it exists, and will make a real effort at doing so going forward. I also really do try to look at what the 'other' side puts forward, and judge it on its merits. Sometimes they have good points, and I will say so. Many here have stated that there are lots of valid concerns about Trump, but that hasn't been what's mostly being put forward.

    From SweetLou's list of supposed culprits, what seems to be happening is anyone who doesn't just villify Trump is therefore 'extreme right wing'. Given that (and that is fairly common, not just SweetLou), and that there isn't much extreme coming from the right lately (they don't have anything to rant about so far)...the extremist posting IS almost exclusively from the left since the election. As would be the case from the 'losing' side in any election. So, the extremism is going to be fairly one sided, at least for the time being.

    I would also point to your post as an example of how to have an actual conversation on something. I'll gladly discuss any issue with anyone, and listen to what they have to say, so long as they appear willing to do the same, or if their comments are constructive, or objective. Posts that just villify...there isn't anything constructive to do with those, other than point that fact out.
     
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    I had some semblance of respect for you until you became a partisan hack and just a talking piece for the right. So this post is meaningless.
     

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