I agree, why would PP want to compromise when they don't have to. Removing these underdeveloped humans from their mothers wombs after removing the life from their tissue is their legal cash cow. PP also has the benefit of government funding to keep the lights on and pay the employees in case abortion can't pay for all that silly stuff. It was the premise of the thread, the point to this forum is not to discuss what PP thinks or wants, it's to see if the people here can discuss these options... you can see for yourself how well that works.
By "silly stuff" im guessing you are referring to the millions of pap smears, well woman exams, STD screenings, birth control pills/etc given to women every year? Juan made the point that other providers could step in and fill that void should PP not exist--I'm not sure we have that capacity just laying around but that is another argument. But all that aside, wouldn't you support reducing unwanted pregnancies>>>abortions through free and easy access to birth control?
Would you rather pay for abortion or would you rather pay to keep even more people on welfare and in prison, OP? Personally, I prefer a more pro-active approach of giving people more options because options are good. I also do not think any of us have any right to tell another human being what they can and cannot do to their body. Besides, the only people out there who can legitimately claim that they are pro-life without sounding like a hypocrite are the people who adopt. If you don't adopt then please, do us all a favor and stfu.
You talk like the public or the government has a role in the decision-making process. PP has a board and leadership that would make that call. The premise of the thread was 'why not spin off abortions from Planned Parenthood?' And, the answer is 'because that'd be a stupid thing for them to do.'
The role the government could play would be to remove public funding for services provided by any business that also provided abortion services. But again, I agree with you that none of this discussion makes any sense for PP without some change in public funding or regulations by the government.
Separating abortion services from women's healthcare would lend legitimacy to the stigma the pro-life crowd has already cast upon it.
Like I said before, the whole point of Planned Parenthood is to provide abortion services for women, they'd rather shut down entirely than to stop providing them which is why this conversation is pointless. They are an abortion mill masquerading as a women's health clinic.....which I'm fine with I guess, but let's just be honest with each other about it. Pointing out the non-abortion women's services they provide is kind of like pointing out how some terrorist organizations build schools and help their communities when they aren't out committing acts of terrorism. It's just sort of a pointless argument.
Texas did, its called Texas Women's Health. Of course it doesn't provide as much reproductive health services, not talking about abortions, and serves a considerably less amount of women. Essentially Texas replaced PP with a worse option.
Nah, you just need to get over it. Abortions will happen regardless as they always have. You can either make smart, informed public policies by providing public funds for all reproductive services or rely on silly sky daddys telling you morality from on high. This is most certainly one of those things where spending more money saves more money long term.
I'm over it. I believe as you do that abortions will happen regardless. I don't believe that the public should pay for them. I don't see why you would need to believe in a silly sky daddy to know that removing underdeveloped humans from their mother's wombs after destroying their living tissue is of questionable morality but that's just me I guess.
They don't unless there is a medical issue that requires it to save the life of the mother. Well the sky daddy seems to not care about smart policies. So you'd rather the child be raised in a very poor situation that contributes to more welfare and more incarceration? Abortion isn't something that is taken lightly.
Subsidies to PP keep the lights on in these places regardless of how the books allocate the funds. You and I are in agreement that PP is used for population control among the poor.
