[NY Times] Cardinals under FBI investigation for hacking Astros

Perhaps, but STL went bonkers in the 2016 draft. I'd assume they saw this coming. They had (3) first rounders. Their farm can sustain this type of hit, especially with the addition of Fowler to ease the loss of their 1st rounder.

 

That's awesome. Would have loved to sit in on that.

No apologies necessary.

 

#75 pick is also trade able.

 

Just not sure why the builder of the program (Luhnow) would need to hack into the system he built (or helped build) to gain access to data that he's probably already recreated in Ground Control. Something doesn't add up.

Correa's stance the whole time has been that he was checking for Cardinals proprietary data on the Astros system. That was his defense from the start...is he saying that MLB completely ignored those claims and didn't investigate that at all for the past couple of years? I find that hard to believe.

And his belief that Manfred somehow owed it to him to have a visit is asinine. How often do judges meet with alleged criminals to discuss the case prior to trying it?

 

Yes, that is what he's saying. And it's a dumb, moot stance.

FWIW, in the court transcript, Correa emphasized that his initial intention for the hacking was to see if HOU stole anything from STL, however he also acknowledged doing much more than that.

Spoiler: court transcript here

http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastro...ea-who-hacked-astros-highlights-case-details/

Correa may be right in saying the league ignored his claims that there was a good faith basis to inquire. But even if he's right, his defense doesn't matter. Whether there was a good faith basis to inquire doesn't give STL any right to hack HOU; it gives STL a right to properly and formally raise this issue with the league.

I also doubt the league weighed his initial intention because of how egregious the entire act was. It's akin to saying, "look, I broke into Jeff's house because I had believed he had my bicycle. But then I found a map, blueprint, and other bicycles and scooters and all of which can now be traced to Albert's house".

I'm glad the league is holding STL vicariously liable for Correa's actions, even amidst Correa's claims that STL did not benefit. Whether STL benefitted is immaterial from a policy standpoint. The league absolutely has to come down hard on the wrong team, otherwise it just incentives sneaky cheating.

 

Correa has been made a pariah the same as Donaghy. Neither of those guys were rogue, there's more to it.

 

Anyone care to share Buster Olney's recent article on why the Cardinals' penalty sparked outrage across MLB? Guessing they think the Astros are benefiting from being hacked/having lax password controls?

 

Thank you, kindly! Opinions within the industry run the gamut, it seems.

 

Pretty pathetic that the Cardinals were able to use their 19th pick in a trade...The Astros were shafted in this deal...and an extremely underwhelming punishment from the league office, who frankly had a real chance to punish the birds and send a msg across the league. With any future violations, the league cant punish a team anymore than they did with the Cardinals. Terrible and weak ruling by the MLB.

 

just read the Olney article... and hits the nail on the head with how pathetic this really is.

 

Article I wrote on how shockingly low punishment for Cardinals sets a dangerous precedent for league if any of yall interested.

The punishment really is ridiculous given the crime. This is deflate-gate on steriods and is criminally underreported, partially part of the reason why the MLB let the Cardinals off the hook so easy.

 

Just playing devils advocate here:

I'm not so sure Luhnow isn't without fault. I mean, how do you not change passwords? Even if you don't have any reason to believe that Correa knew "Eckstein123", it just seems partially negligent to not continuously alter or better encrypt passwords, especially when you're entire "Ground Control" relies on it. Just seems like a dumb mistake on Luhnow's part, and I wonder if the league saw that and thought: "gee, this could've been easily prevented".

Such a consideration doesn't make Correa's actions any less egregious, but perhaps it played a role in the severity of the punishment.

 

Pretty sure I read somewhere that he continued hacking onto people's account despite multiple password changes? And he didn't just hack Luhnow, he hacked the database and email of over 5 employees.

 

I hope Uncle D enjoys his bleeping stadium.

 

Correa is just a guy trying to deflect blame. It's laughable that he says the Cards org didn't benefit from HIS hacking. If they didn't gain an advantage why did he do it in the 1st place. He's a liar plain and simple.

If he had the evidence he claims it would've come out in court.

 

The way I read Correa's statement that the Cards didn't benefit was that he wanted to imply *somebody* benefited, just not the Cards. And certainly I don't see how it benefited the Astros. Now, Stearns (now with the Brewers, though not sure what he was doing during 2011-2014) has also been linked in some way to the case, and I wondered whether Correa wasn't trying to say that the ultimate beneficiary of the hacking was the Brewers.

Is it possible Correa was trying to make a little side money by selling the information he downloaded to a non-Cardinals team?

 

You're a conspiracy theorist

 

Leaving my door unlocked does not give a thief the freedom to steal from my house. It does not make me culpable in any way, shape or form.