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Is This It? Trump/Bannon's Dictatorship Plan Under Way?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. JayGoogle

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    Your the only one with bias here (The guy who couldn't even admit that FDR was a great president...) and project it upon others. I spent my posts in this thread pointing out people that have no stake in the DNC or RNC and play no role in American politics (other than the Koch's who are extremely conservative) that are also "Overdramatic" about Trump and your only response is to just double down on your theory that people are just whining about Clinton losing.

    I wonder when that tired argument will wear out, you pretty much use it for everything these days.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, okay. You've proven that you can't see the other side of the discussion, so I won't keep pushing you to try. By all means, keep your one sided world perspective.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Yet, you failed to address a single one of my points.

    Just "Clinton lost, they should get over it."
     
  4. Nook

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    Don't underestimate the repressed. For a long time people that share the core views of Donald Trump were silenced by the media and the majority of people. I can easily see 1/3 of the country supporting the core principals of the Trump/Bannon doctrine.

    He is moving fast to try and angle a defacto dictatorship.

    A protest turns violent......... a Muslim attacks and kills a large number of innocents or Christians....... a right wing extremist kills Muslims, sparking a back lash..... another Boston Marathon type event..... ANYTHING like that right now may be enough to allow Trump/Bannon get enough of what they want accomplished passed to make it very difficult to stop Trump.

    Society holds together by a very thin veneer...... the current easy access to global communication only makes the possibility of discourse resulting in the death of civilians by the government in response to the actions of the government.
     
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  5. Nook

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    It is semantics and really doesn't matter ultimately.

    What matters is that Donald Trump is attempting to circumvent the Constitution.

    Whether he views it as democratic or authoritarian is irrelevant.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    I'm in Katy - should I evacuate?
     
  8. ipaman

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    This thread is embarrassing and disrespectful to people who really live under a crushing, suffocating, oppresive, regime who have no choice but to risk their lives in a coup.

    I wonder if sam is buying guns and will lead the line or will he fight with his keyboard criticizing the fighters for their tactics.
     
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  9. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I think you're underrating interpretation. The espionage act is a good example of how the constitution is not really set in stone in the way you're describing. Which way would a supreme court ruling go? How would a majority republican congress feel about the constitution if stretching things favored them?

    This is dangerous.
     
  10. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    No. No it's not.
     
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    I totally agree. We should welcome those folks risking their lives to flee a crushing, suffocating, oppressive regi....oh wait
     
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  13. B-Bob

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    bigtexxx, no need to evacuate, bro. You're white and have sworn your allegiance to Trump/Bannon. You should be good to go/stay!
     
  14. Nook

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    There is case law on most the issues, some of it very lengthy and well established.

    Nothing in the USA is absolute, the Supreme Court can always change the law.... but the reality is that Trump is at this point going to be appointing a single Justice, he simply does not have the votes to get his positions rubber stamped.

    My point was whether Trump views his actions as democratic or authoritarian are irrelevant... his actions are bordering on authoritarian and he has given no indication that he is not going to keep his current course.

    Yes, Trump IS dangerous for a lot of reasons, but whether his personal view of his actions is democratic doesn't matter.... his actions and the precedent set are what matters.
     
  15. ipaman

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    actually you're wrong because many refugees who are being persecuted for being minorities in those 7 and other countries are getting rapid vetting to help them escape. so try harder next time unless you don't care about those refugees.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    They going for protest fatigue .. . .
    doing so much that eventually. . . people will accept anything

    Rocket River
     
  17. robbie380

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    Lol I assumed he'd be like all other president's and not do what they said during their campaign runs. I was trying to give him a chance and base my opinion of him on his past rather than freak out. Whether or not I stated it clearly in that post I was also an advocate of Trump picking way too many fights with too many people and ultimately getting little done during his presidency. He has proven that type of person for decades as well. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-01-27/donald-trump-s-track-record-on-deals

    He hasn't accomplished much yet (other than to piss off his opponents) due to sloppiness, but he has shown he is going to act on all of his campaign promises. So yes that clearly changes my opinion of things. We will just have to wait and see where he lies on social issues. I have no clue where he truly stands on abortion, but I think he is pro-LGBT. I think if Hardiman is his SCOTUS pick then that is fairly tolerable from what I have read. Hardiman hasn't ruled on an abortion case, but maybe you might have a better opinion on him since you are a lawyer, if I recall correctly. Trump is also pushing the child care plan which is helpful for women and not a traditional Republican stance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eres-why-that-matters/?utm_term=.8c4646224f64

    Semi-related, but I thought that was a decent breakdown of the executive actions and what they mean.

    and I just saw Jeff Bezos is working on a legal challenge to the immigration order.


    All that said....the article is still very dramatic. Also, I have grown very tired of Trump very, very, very quickly. Dude has never learned how to shut the **** up and never will.
     
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  18. Bobbythegreat

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    That's exactly what happens when people are constantly looking for excuses to protest and will even do so without an excuse. As a result, protest carries almost no weight and it'll get worse after a few more years of constant protest. Crying wolf has consequences.
     
  19. Nook

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    This......... If I kick you in the face day after day........ and one day stop, you will tolerate me still verbally abusing you because I am no longer kicking you in the head.
     
  20. tinman

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    It's time to replace the government with machines
     

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