REAL NEWS - White House defends Trump Holocaust statement that didn't mention Jews

Trump betrays Israel, reveals he is a Muslim

 

Jews offended they were called innocent people, wth?

 

Were the handicapped, Roma, Catholics, homosexuals, etc. all equally chagrined by the omission of a specific mention of their group as victims of the Nazi regime?

 

To make up for the gaffe, Trump was quoted as saying "I have penned a new letter where I promised to Netan-YAHOO to move the US embassy to 'Jew'-rusalem...the rightful capital of some people of which I don't want to say who."

 

Where were they when Obama signed a deal with Iran that actually threatens Israel's existence.

 

So clever. hahahaha. ... Ahem, but no, they were not. Do you know what the point of all this is? Having studied it and written on it in great detail, I can tell you the Holocaust was primarily, as acknowledged by all historians, motivated by anti-Semitism. Don't take my word for it; just read something not written by Breitbart, or, I don't know... something written by SURVIVORS of it, or people who lived in Nazi Germany at the time.

Anyway, once you don't #altfact history, you can see people might be wondering why the Whitehouse took this atypical approach, given that they've placed a very controversial figure who is alleged to be an anti-Semite in a key advisory role.

Of all the missteps, however, I think this one is relatively minor. In my view, it's just more evidence that Bannon is calling the shots, and that's probably a very bad thing, for Trump and for all of us for the next while.

 

B-Bob any opinion on this piece http://www.ukemonde.com/holocaust/victims.html I read after seeing the controversy over this. It seems like we have been getting a bit of #altfacts in the US since WWII. Clearly, Jews were directly and most aggressively targeted by the Nazis, but other ethnic groups seem have been completely forgotten. All types of Slavic (I believe Ukrainians are considered Slav) people were subject to genocide as well. More than 10 million non-Jews died as a result of the Nazi ethnic cleansing, but this seems to be totally forgotten. About I was pretty blown away when I was reading about this.

I also just found this shorter version of how absolutely horrifying the Nazis were. https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM

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Most Nazis were absolute racists, especially among the top echelon; they believed utterly in the superiority of the "Aryan" race. They had no doubt that they were the pinnacle of racial evolution, that eugenically they were the best. So science proved, as many German and non-German scientists told them. And therefore they could not allow inferior groups to pollute their racial strain. Inferior races were like diseased appendixes that had to be surgically removed for the health of the body. Therefore they must exterminate the Jew and Gypsy. So also must they liquidate the homosexual and handicapped. So eventually they must also eliminate the Slavs, after exploiting their slave labor. Slavs were not only biologically inferior, but also inhabited territory that Germany needed for the superior race to expand and grow.

But then the Nazi program ran into the problem of numbers. Exterminating millions of Jews would be hard enough. But the Slavs numbered in the tens of millions. Therefore they envisioned a two-part approach: reduce their number through execution, starvation, and disease. And then after the war that the Nazis would of course win, deport the remaining 30,000,000 or 40,000,000 Slavs to Siberia.

These genocides cost the lives of probably 16,315,000 people. Most likely the Nazis wiped out 5,291,000 Jews, 258,000 Gypsies, 10,547,000 Slavs, and 220,000 homosexuals. They also "euthanized" 173,500 handicapped Germans. Then in repression, terrorism, reprisals, and other cold-blooded killings done to impose and maintain their rule throughout Europe, the Nazis murdered more millions including French, Dutch, Serbs, Slovenes, Czechs, and others. In total, they likely annihilated 20,946,000 human beings.
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We throw the term Nazi around flippantly and often forget the reality of what life was like just a few generations ago. Just mind numbing.

 

Catholics were not targeted by the Nazis.

 

Thanks, robbie380. I edited down a longer msg and maybe I'll send you a msg when I get a chance.

quickly. the numbers are definitely horrific. Several reasons why I think the Slavic #s get overshadowed (though I don't think forgotten at all).
1. Different intensity, focus, and systematic approach to the killing.
2. Different place in the very Nazi identity. e.g., the Nazi 1933 laws were targeting Jews, again and again, not Slavs.
3. Most Slavs were, at one point or another, behind an Army. That doesn't make it right, but it makes it different, when people look back at it. Nobody seems as innocent as a bunch of unarmed civilians who are just herded up and gassed, to be blunt.

An extreme example of that idea: 1/2 of German civilians "captured" by the Red Army in late 1944 and early 1945 ended up dead in short order. Using the same techniques you listed: execution, disease, starvation (plus systematic brutal rape). Civilians. Those people are definitely forgotten, but they were behind an army, at one time, and even worse, the Nazi army.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#Roman_Catholics

 

Thanks for the link. That is much more than I had read about previously. Since Hitler himself was Catholic, it is almost a split personality thing to go after Catholics. However, based on that article from wikipedia and how the Catholic church was part of the Polish resistance, it makes more sense.

 

This probably line up wtih Bannon's mindset pretty closely. Do not like spreading this stuff, but it's the reality of this WH with Bannon as chief of Trump.