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Is This It? Trump/Bannon's Dictatorship Plan Under Way?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. SamFisher

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    After having to deal with a lot of Trumpapologists wishfully thinking he wouldn't be that bad (including, btw President Obama) and sounding optimistic the last 10 days have revealed pretty much that Trump is everything that people warned he would be, everything that HE warned us he would be, and probably worse, now that he has a White Supremacist and Russian backing as his guiding force.

    Anyway this medium post is pretty disturbing.

    We are frightfully close to a full-on government collapse.

    BTW - Executive Orders attempting to legalize discrimination gays are coming up next, supposedly.
     
  2. sirbaihu

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    Trump's gonna go the way of Gaddafi.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I do love how insane people on the left have gotten the last few weeks. It's pretty hilarious.
     
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    ...this medium post is quite.....dramatic
     
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    What a bunch of BS how people have started tripping on the president for no reason till its in writing this is just here say let it go people.
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    If only it were just people on the left. Gorbachev, nobel prize winners, the Pope, even the f'n Koch's have turned pretty dramatic suddenly

    I think the only naive people are those that think it can NEVER happen. The only way it can never happen is if people are steadfast against it. If one side of the country decides to excuse and ignore every silly and stupid thing Trump does then yes, it can happen.
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    I heard the EXACT same things from people on the fringes of the right after Obama was elected. People on the fringes overreact when things don't go their way and the fringe right and the fringe left have quite a bit in common really. King Obama didn't suspend democracy and turn the country into a communist state, Trump isn't going to suspend democracy and turn the country into a dictatorship.

    Those freaking out right now are really still throwing a temper tantrum due to losing the election.....it's no different than those on the right who threw a similar temper tantrum when Obama won.

    I can't wait for cooler heads to prevail and sanity returning to the country. While I stand by my opinion that the left freaking out like this (even if they are former communist leaders, nobel prize winners.....which we found out means nothing at all when Obama won one just for being elected, religious leaders, or billionaire businessmen) is hilarious, it sure is starting to get tiresome.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Can't be long now until the bullets start flying.

    DD
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I'm alarmed by how clumsy and awful -- and yes I vote clumsy over cunning -- the first 10 days have been, and I don't doubt Bannon has some fantasies of totally rewriting America, but I also think he's overplaying his hand. He thinks he has 1/3 of America as loyal ignore-all-facts subjects, but I'd put the actual number closer to 18-20%, tops.

    True dictatorships take over when conditions are awful, and the dictatorship often improves conditions, at least at first. (1) Despite his hyperbolic picture of a decaying America, the vast majority of people are doing pretty well, and they don't recognize the America he describes, and (2) He won't improve things much and, perhaps, quite the opposite if he keeps stumbling around and pissing off as many people as possible.

    My big worry, of course, is that one of these protests will turn violent. That's the big opening that Wormtongue wants and needs.
     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    You lose me when you compare Obama to Trump in the first place, the narrative that Obama was just as radical as Trump really needs to stop. It's really not the left's fault that so many on the right threw fits about Obama's policy, but Obama's policy has been nothing like Trump's.

    Trump's policy has
    -Threatened trade wars with allies
    -Actually made our country seem intolerant towards a religion (A country btw founded on religious refugees)
    -Has China's state media threatening nuclear war and basically telling US "Come at me bro."


    The people I named...didn't lose the election and some of them have little to do with US Politics in the first place. That narrative also needs to stop.

    Sanity won't return to the country when the president is the insane one. Unfortunately, it seems insanity has become quite contagious.

    Again, is this article over dramatic. Yes. At the same time though I get tired of the naive attitude that it can never happen, it can never happen here in America. Why not? What makes America invulnerable to collapse? History shows that greater empires have fallen, why not us? The idea that we've reached some golden age in time where major wars and conflicts are inconceivable to us and that it can't, won't happen is all the more reason that it will.

    I don't mind these articles for that reason. Let history be a lesson to us. Realize if you just sit back and ignore radical changes then you'll get radical changes, and most of them won't be for the better.

    The most radical thing Obama did was try to get everyone healthcare.
     
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    LOL, I'm not surprised that's the case, most people on the left think that way and they don't understand how anyone could see it differently.....which is part of the reason why they lost the last election. You need to branch out in your thinking, try to see things from the perspective of others. Realize that even though you think Obama was awesome, others on the polar opposite end of the spectrum see it completely differently. When you see Trump as a tyrant and a dictator, others might view him as you view Obama. It's just how it goes.

    Personally, I'm not a fan of either, so I understand some of the complaints about both. Obama was a terrible president, and a lot of the things that are being b****ed about now are due to some of the moves Obama made in expanding the power of the presidency and some of the things people will b**** about in a few weeks are going to be due to things the Democrats set in place while they controlled congress. Trump is likely to be a terrible president too, probably even worse than Obama was, but you have to realize that some will never see it that way.....hell you are proof that some still think Obama was a good president which absolutely wasn't the case so it makes sense that the exact opposite version of yourself would be a die hard Trump supporter who will never see that Trump is a bad president.
     
  12. shorerider

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    The democrats have completely lost any shred of composure/common sense. They are now in a full-blown state of hysteria, pure emotional-rage in which their facebook/social-media-induced reality has now taken over their 3-dimensional universe, and have given themselves effectively a party-wide lobotomy and thus continue to marginalize themselves straight into the nuthouse. Of course the MSM and social media are nothing short of instrumental in whipping it all up.

    However, I have discovered an antidote to all of this: Unplug your internet cable. Immediately begin enjoying reality.
     
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    I'm not surprised you think it's the case.

    You keep thinking this is a left or right thing, it isn't. Look at what the people thought of Obama, look at what the world thinks of Obama, now look at Trump.

    To compare the two and act like they've done the same thing is silly. Again, back to my 3 points...not even a month yet...

    Trump's policy has
    -Threatened trade wars with allies
    -Actually made our country seem intolerant towards a religion (A country btw founded on religious refugees)
    -Has China's state media threatening nuclear war and basically telling US "Come at me bro.

    Hell, Boris Johnson "No reason to cancel the Trump visit. The UK held state dinners for Mugabe and Ceausescu, too."

    He just compared Trump to Mugabe...is he just upset that Clinton didn't win?
     
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  15. Bobbythegreat

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    This 100% is a left and right thing, but I understand that not everyone will see that, least of all someone who is STILL an Obama apologist. It's cool though man, that kind of unintentional bias is just a fact of life and pretty hard to prevent.
     
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    All the people who said they were scared when Obama first took office because he was going to destroy the country, how are they feeling about this president? He has done more to throw tradition out the window in one week than all the presidents combined for the last fifty years.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    They are likely blind to it, just like those who are freaking out about Trump now were blind to Obama being an awful president. I mean, it doesn't help that most of what is seen as "throwing tradition out the window" is rhetoric bordering on propaganda.....but it is what it is.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    This is just unbelievable how unconstitutional this administration is and has plans to get worse.

    DD
     
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    I think the real problem here is.. you guys' and most Americans' definition of dictatorial is nowhere near what Trump would consider non-democratic.

    Would you agree with that?
     
  20. wouldabeen23

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    To my conservative brethren: will you at least advocate for us leftists to watch rocket games from our FEMA camp? Or will basketball be verboten mit untermenschen?
     

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