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DNC Chair Candidate: My Job Is To Tell White People When To Shut Their Mouths

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheresTheDagger, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. Granville

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    So she's the decider of what constitutes "interrupting" versus contributing to discussion? She gets to decide whether a white person is listening or just offering a differing opinion...... Ok... Disagreeing doesn't mean that you are not listening.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    What are you talking about? Yes she's the decider. She just said that was part of her job. But it isn't that difficult to know when someone is interrupting.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    I love all the white conservatives who'd never participate in a DNC-anything complaining about things democrats say to one another. Did any democratic white person chime in on this thread about being oppressed? I know we have plenty on the forum, so surely someone is offended right?
     
  4. Granville

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    So she's gonna draw on her experience as a white woman who doesn't get it to single out only white people who don't get it and censor them. If a white person says they are not a racist, she tells them to STFU.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Talking about not getting it...

    She didn't say that if a white person claims they aren't a racist she tells them to shut up. You're just making stuff up now. She isn't censoring anyone. She hasn't advocated censoring anyone. Did you really not watch or understand anything? It sounds like you only want to believe the hype and twist that even further than it already has been.
     
  6. edwardc

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    What are you smoking
     
  7. Granville

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    "My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say, “Oh, no, I’m not prejudiced." My bad.... she said prejudiced.

    So exactly what is shutting people down from speaking if not censoring?
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    It isn't shutting them down. They can listen, and then voice their opinion once it's over. I guess are extremely sensitive to race issues. Maybe instead of spending your time complaining about how whites are discriminated against by all the powers that be, you could do something about it, and work to show how un-racist white folks are.
     
  9. CometsWin

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    Your response supports the idea that rather than simply listening you would rather interject that whatever I have to say about myself will be emotional rather than thoughtful. That's so damn condescending. My experience speaks much more for all the people of my race than your experience speaks to all the people of my race. You're not part of the discussion about what I experience because you don't experience it. So rather than simply listening you want to diminish what I have to say before I even say it. That's really the issue. You're not listening.
     
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  10. BigDog63

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    If that was her intention, then it isn't much of an issue. Fun for political banter, but not really that much to it. One could still discuss what she actually meant, and whether that were the right approach, but not an outlandish position.
     
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  11. Granville

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    That's your spin on her naïve speech on BLM. There has to be some input in to that rudderless cesspool of ignorance as it is intertwined with cop killing. Me calling out this pathetic attempt at simplifying the complex discussion of race down to white people needing to shut up and listen isn't being extremely sensitive.

    Not that I need to respond to your rude ass comment...... I actually spend my free time making a difference in the lives of Autism families here and have in 4 countries. My group has donated classroom tools, laptops, playground equipment, scholarship money to therapy centers and hosted face to face events between the families in these majority non-white countries and families in my group.

    My group here has people of Asian, Hispanic, African American and Caucasian decent. We purposely forge lasting meaningful friendships with people of different races and backgrounds rallying around the common theme of the needs of caring for Autistic family members. Through these efforts I proudly say I have met and become good friends with people that I may have never had the opportunity to meet if not for a common purpose. I wouldn't call it me being un-racist though. It's me and others making the best of our situation. It's fighting challenges, sometimes in the form of discrimination, ( and yes our community has children who face discrimination and ridicule for the way they look, act at times and sometimes speak different than others) hand in hand leading a better way for our community without the constant focus of finger pointing others.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    I thank you for your polite ass response. I'm glad that your polite ass does so much for Autism. But yes, your comments to show a heightened sensitivity to race. I know it's hard for the oft discriminated against white man to deal with the issues. But a polite ass man such as yourself doesn't need to be so defensive about it. I believe you can make a difference in that area too. That's especially true of you a polite ass gentleman such as yourself. I'm sure you've never suggested that minorities like black folks stop complaining and do something to make their situation better. And you have always made polite ass comments to those do make suggestions like that advising them to stop.
     
  13. BigDog63

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    Not complaining...more rejoicing that this might be where the DNC is headed. Which should concern most Democrats.
     
  14. B-Bob

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    I can understand our ongoing fad with being outraged over tweetable bits and ignoring trying to understand someone. I get it, I see it, but it is definitely tiring. I've been guilty of it as well.

    But it's especially ironic in this case, you see, b/c her whole point appears to be that she is encouraging LISTENING. Liberals are not as good at this as some of us think we are. I have myself witnessed a comfy white person talking to a person of color about politics and it's like a professorial lesson instead of a conversation, and my take is that's what she's talking about.

    My Dad always said "two ears, one mouth," and I have tried to live by that idea. This woman was probably just encouraging white people to LISTEN for a while to people different from them. To make sure they mix in some listening with their high-horse talking points.

    But anyway, please don't let me interrupt the outrage or vilification of those dastardly liberals who want to persecute white people at all costs. Sigh.

    EDIT: I called it early on, y'all. Just watch a parade of nonsense stories like this to keep the right vilifying the powerless left, the party without house, senate or white house, or the supreme court... all while important parts of American life and liberty get put under the boot. Just watch.
     
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    Indeed, rejoice, as the Republicans are going to put us in such good hands. May as well have zero parties that are responsive to real problems. Just one dysfunctional party and another that is better organized but around a narcissist and an embrace of "alternative facts" to confront the 21st Century.

    Rejoice!
     
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    No. My response implies I should have the right to share my thoughts without being told to "STFU...you aren't X (race)". Aside from that, I am polite in conversation with anyone and would never interrupt a personal observation just like I would hope others wouldn't do that to me. It's actually one of my HUGE pet peeves. Having said that. I wouldn't DEMAND obedience from anyone to shut up if I was speaking about my experiences like others here seem to support. That's the difference.

    I said it tends to lead to emotional response, not that it WILL lead. If you read what I wrote carefully, you will see that. Your response here does tend to validate my statement though.

    A valid comment. What isn't valid is that I should therefore shut up because I have nothing to add.

    As I said above, I would listen to everything you have to say politely in an attempt to understand. You are making one hell of an assumption that I would "diminish" what you have to say simply by responding. Maybe I would empathize. Maybe I would share a similar experience. Maybe I would offer an observation. But you'll never know. I have to shut up.

    If I'm made to shut up, who else isn't listening?

    This whole conversation is mind blowing. People are advocating that we listen while at the same time telling others to shut up. You can't make this stuff up.
     
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  17. Amiga

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    :)

    More of this for everyone would be wonderful

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    My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry
     
  18. BigDog63

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    Trump is the one candidate who actually talked about real problems, so your comment is entirely unfounded (unless intended as being supportive of Trump).

    That aside, again, if that is typical of how the DNC is going to respond, then you'd best resign yourself to an unending stream of Republican Presidents. Telling people to STFU is remarkably similar to 'basket of deplorables'...how'd that work out? So, yes, rejoice indeed. That people with this mindset will never come to power is something well worth rejoicing.
     
  19. BigDog63

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    Yes. And how very tolerant of them, no? No, you can't make this stuff up...if you did, no one would believe it.

    And totally representative of the issues many white voters had around being excluded. So, rather that 'listen' (ironic, no?), they double down, and not only don't listen, but tell said group to just shut up. Ya, that will help win those votes back!
     
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  20. B-Bob

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    ??? Where did I tell anyone in this thread to STFU? I'm all about listening, and my history on here shows that, even when I'm frustrated.

    I do think obsessing over fragments of speech and celebrating the dysfunction of a political party to be against the long term health of the country. I'd like two sane, fact-based, responsive parties. But that's me. Too much to hope for in any case.

    Cheers.
     

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