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Women's Marches

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr.Scarface, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Creepy Crawl

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    I could do without hearing about Ashley Judd's period cycle, and complaining about taxes on tampons, lol.
     
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  2. giddyup

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    Surprised she didn't complain about the disparity in attendance between UK men's and women's basketball games. I wonder if she flies around the country to watch the women's team play?
     
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  3. bigtexxx

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    Look at how JayGoogle suddenly shut up after he realized he was proven wrong. He actually thought that Hillary got more than 50% of the popular vote. This is the problem in America - ignorance. People are convinced they're right, but they don't even have their facts straight. JayGoogle, let this be a lesson for you to always check the facts before you embarrass yourself.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    I did, you just didn't like my response.

    I said I wasn't for what the protestors did on the 20th, I really don't see how that is 'avoiding' the topic. I have to say it 5x to get it through your head though. You are insane man, it's like that time I said "Nope." and you kept going "That's not a straight answer!"

    You mean like how you keep bringing up separate protests that have nothing to do with the Women's march that happened worldwide?

    By the way, where are your pictures that the women march were violent protests?

    For people like him crimes only apply to people he doesn't like or doesn't agree with. This is a guy that said we should place landmines on the border so I'm not sure where this guy is coming from most times.
     
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  5. JayGoogle

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    I just proved you wrong and got bored with talking to you man.

    1.) I never said she got more than 50%. Go ahead, read back over the thread and find the quote where I said that...

    2.) Wait, there isn't a 2 because that's your whole argument that I said that. So yeah, try again.

    Looks like you are collecting another L Bigtexxx.
     
  6. RocketsLegend

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    How could anyone supports this trash I mean come on! WTF is wrong with the left????????

     
  7. bigtexxx

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    Post 39 in this thread! You've been absolutely humiliated, kid.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    Lets see...
    Now, look up Majority, look it up in several dictionaries if you want. Look at many of the first descriptions of it...come back...now realize that more of the voters voted for Clinton than they did Trump. Now, lets break down this sentence and understand the context of it...

    The MAJORITY(Larger number) of VOTERS (People who voted.) voted for Clinton.

    Was that so hard? Where in this post do I say that she won more than 50% of the vote? She won 48 and Trump won....46!
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    as you stroke your dick lmao.

    Sad!
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Actually doing something would have been on election day, so yeah, this is just whining. If this was done a year ago, then maybe Trump isn't president now. Doing this now does nothing really unless this keeps up for 2 years......and eventually they get something that would lend some legitimacy to what they are going.

    Perhaps these people did vote, if so, then they did their best and there were just more people that disagreed with them where it mattered so they are just going to have to live with it and hope they can make a more convincing case next time.

    I realize that the founding fathers were for protests.....when there was actually something to protest, not just stomping your feet (or vandalizing Starbucks) because you didn't get your way. The way you let elected officials know your disgust with them is by voting. That's really all you can do. In fact, throwing a temper tantrum like this only serves to push everyone else away. I get that New York and California aren't happy......but the rest of the country simply matters more than they do. I get that they don't like the fact that they don't matter more than the rest of the country, but they can just deal with it.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Their irrational fears are not a legitimate reason to protest. Until someone actually does something, or even makes an effort to do something, it's just whining. If a bill is introduced to take away their rights, fine, protest that. If we're honest, we both know this is just a temper tantrum due to not getting their way. It might not take long to get a legitimate reason to protest, but by doing so before the legitimate reason materializes all you are doing is hurting the credibility of the protesters.
     
  12. TheresTheDagger

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    Pretty impressive turnout for these rallies. Having said that, at some point, all these people are gonna have to go back to their lives and...life will continue on with the same President.

    See you in 4 years.
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    Your post is contradictory, let me explain why.

    Your argument is that protesting does nothing or little at all. That all you can do is vote. You say this here.
    Problem is above you recognize that if they had protested earlier, then maybe Trump wouldn't be president...
    Okay, so you've established that protesting does make a difference with this quote...so then, why are you against them protesting now? You are right if they go away and do nothing after today then it's really just a blip and a moment...but until that happens then it seems a bit premature to say that is what will happen. That's really just your hope that it will happen, but I'm telling you this country is so divided and a GOP control is just going to mirror what happen when the Democrats had control. You're going to see left wing grass roots movements, especially if they continue their stance on abortion and climate. Maybe you think these are trivial matters to get passionate about, many of us don't.

    He's exactly right there, it makes no sense to sit around and wait for them to take away rights and then protest. The thing is you above said that people shouldn't wait until Trump is elected to protest, that they should have done so before...but on this issue you've flipped entirely...that people should wait until they are in the process of taking away their rights and THEN protest.

    They don't need to wait, we see Trump's cabinet members, we see the people in power and what they've said they will do. I linked you a link to states that constantly nip and bite at reproductive rights, you ignored that. It's already in the process, here is Indiana...Mike Pence' (VP) state...

    http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/16/total-abortion-ban-proposed-indiana/93954670/
    "An Indiana lawmaker plans to introduce a bill that would outlaw and criminalize all forms of abortion in Indiana."

    Trump on Abortion
    So again Bobby, why should they wait until he does it and then protest? Can't they protest BEFORE and AFTER the event? As MLK JR once said "The time is always right to do what is right." the time is right now, the GOP is not waiting it seems, the president said that he'll appoint pro-life judges TO overturn the decision. He said that. I'd agree with you if he walked that back...but he hasn't yet. As far as I know, his current stance on the issue is to overturn it.

    Also, just because they protested Saturday doesn't mean they won't vote in 2 years, it doesn't mean they didn't vote, it doesn't mean anything other that they protested, that they let their voices be heard, again.

    Honestly I hear that from fly over country that they are 'Real Americans' and no one in these liberal cities are. Anyways, I think it's them telling the president and the GOP that they too are Americans and as I say over and over again, this isn't winner takes all.

    I get it though, Roe v Wade in particular will take a lot to overturn at this point. I don't understand though why we should give any ground in that fight. I'm not giving any ground on any social issues, not an inch, and I hope liberals and moderate conservatives agree with me on that.
     
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  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    "irrational fears"

    Republicans are hypocritical b****es. You have a guy claiming he will repeal Roe V Wade...something that has stood for a long time for a reason. You also have a guy talking about getting away with anything with "star" status. Women have a right ot be pissed.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    Here is the thing . . . . .

    The reality of government they really don't have to overturn or make or repeal too many new laws.
    Roe V Wade - no need to over turn it . . .simply add alot of things to it to make it more difficult to enforce.
    i.e. The requirement that clinics be basically hospital level - Sonograms etc. I'm Anti-Abortion but I recognize the tactic for what it is

    They can simply NOT enforce others. . . . i.e. cops can kill and main and abuse people but limit the oversight
    and the ability of people to do anything about it. . . . They can simply continue to allow cops to police cops
    and the citizens have no avenue for justice but the same system that did not give them justice.

    there is alot the Government can do without laws being made or repealed

    Rocket River
     
  16. Amiga

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    8 pages in and there is not a single mention of what the vision of the Women's March is about. The debate that this is largely about abortion pretty much missed the mark completely. The "wait till it happen" before you can peacefully assembly and march, is a silly idea, and it's also not applicable here. The idea that a peaceful march does nothing is just wrong. How can it do nothing when it drew over 3 Million people and influence many more watching? At min, it planted seeds. But, yes, seeds do need continuing care and applied energy to grow and so how great of a success this march becomes do depend on continuing effort.

    And yes, this does end up being an anti-Trump march, just for the simple fact that he represent against many of things that the march is for.

    Women's March Guiding Vision and Definition of Principles

    Edit: Drew over 3M people (in US only), by latest estimate.
     
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    Maybe I missed it, but what legislation are these people rallying for/ against?
     
  18. Chilly_Pete

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    Check out Txtony's post right above yours. It states why they are marching.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    Tallanvor knows why they are marching. He is just joining in lockstep the republican chorus line ("OMG, one person said something bad", gee, there weren't really that many people", "if it was all that important, why didn't they vote" and now "gee, what were they marching for").
     
  20. durvasa

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    I don't consider it an irrational fear at all. People can of course rationally disagree on what issues are important. For anyone who is concerned about Roe vs. Wade being overturned, which is quite possible if conservatives hold all three branches of government, the fear is rational.

    Beyond that, some of the stuff Trump has said (and hasn't disavowed) about women is just disgusting, and I fully support the People (not just politicians in Washington or the media) sending a strong message that it is unacceptable. Peaceful, mass marches are a legitimate and effective way to do that.

    Of course I don't support violent protest in any form, as those people unfairly hurt the credibility of the vast majority of peaceful protesters and the message they are protesting on. But it is no surprise that those who strongly disagree on the issues these women are protesting on would find any reason to generalize that the entire population of marchers out there are "idiots" or "b****es" or whatever.
     

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