1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Women's Marches

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr.Scarface, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    typical snowflake.
     
  2. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,323
    Likes Received:
    45,192
    You say that but you clearly didn't watch any of the protest. A woman's right to choose is enough reason to protest clearly.
    The sad thing is during the civil rights movement many people also thought "Black people really have no reason to be doing this." of course the people that thought that weren't black...

    Just like the people that think Women have no reason to protest are usually males.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,876
    Likes Received:
    32,601
    Sure, in theory that would be a reason to protest....but it's pretty odd to protest for a right you already have. Should they also be protesting for the right to vote? Perhaps we should protest to end slavery too....let's just recycle all of those legitimate reasons to protest even though there is no longer a reason to protest.
     
  4. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,323
    Likes Received:
    45,192
    Come on now, you know the GOP is not in favor of abortion. In fact Trump while running said he thought women who got abortions should be punished. A lot of this outrage has to do with the dumb things he said in his campaign and until he reverses his stance on those things there will always be outrage towards him for them.
     
  5. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    Oh wow, what a cop out. Rather than just condemn pathetic and criminal behavior, he just disowns them to save face... which is a typical liberal response actually as these snakes have been known to turn on their own once they've become a liability.

    He's just got to be such a bigot to not own up to the uncivilized behavior of these people:

    Because it's a crime.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,876
    Likes Received:
    32,601
    It really doesn't matter if they are in favor of it or not, the SCOTUS has already ruled on the subject so unless they are planning on going after a constitutional amendment there's basically nothing that can be done. Now if he actually does something, then protest all you want, but until then there's nothing to protest. The "he doesn't think the way that I want him to think" angle is pretty weak and not a legit reason to protest.
     
  7. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,323
    Likes Received:
    45,192
    Such dishonesty. I have to say exactly what Dei wants or I'm for them, lul. Talk about intellectual dishonesty. Meanwhile, he claims to have violence or property destruction from today's protests but refuses to post it because of me.
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,986
    Likes Received:
    36,841
    If you think marching peacefully in a free country is lame, I will submit it is infinitely more lame to sit behind a keyboard and snipe about it. LOL.

    Mrs. B-Bob, a victim of sexual assault in her younger years, asked me if I would accompany her, and I did so in San Francisco this evening. I was honestly shocked. I've never seen a march so well attended, so polite, so multi-generational, so peaceful, and so damned humorous. In SF, at least, it was less about Trump and more about sending a message to government that we care about progressive issues, and for this march, women's issues in particular, and that we aren't going away. I see it as a shot across the bow, basically: we're getting more involved than ever, and we're not going anywhere. It rained the entire time and people didn't care.

    The ONLY serious unpleasantness of the entire evening happened late, after the rally. As we walked by a high-tone restaurant, some guy started shouting at a lone woman who was still carrying her protest sign. "Nice sign, LOSER! ... TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP! You're wasting your time! He's not going anywhere! You're accomplishing NOTHING!" He was coming seriously unhinged, but I spoke to him, holding my wife's hand.

    "We marched too," I said. "It was great. It was peaceful. It's the first amendment."

    "You accomplished NOTHING! He's not going ANYWHERE!"

    "Did the Tea Party accomplish anything? Anyway, we're not going anywhere either. Don't be so mad, bro. It's going to be okay."

    Felt a lot like the BBS, actually. LOL.
     
    TL, Thefabman, jo mama and 7 others like this.
  9. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,323
    Likes Received:
    45,192
    Well yes, they've made it quite clear that they plan to get the decision overturned. States also do all they can to bypass the ruling...
    http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=ca1e42e28a45edcdc4e51bc32&id=5c6b5b54a7&e=efdea727ef

    Also, you say if he does something then protest...this contradicts your earlier statement...that these people should have protested a year ago. Apparently, there is NO right time for them to protest. According to your earlier statement, they should be protesting right now to make sure these politicians know how they feel. It seems you are more for submission from the left, I'm sorry, but that isn't realistic to expect.
     
  10. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,323
    Likes Received:
    45,192
    There is a great history of protests accomplishing great things. The country was practically founded on a protest...Those who say otherwise are against specific protest and I think are a bit worried about the opposition and not secure in their own beliefs.
     
  11. crossover

    crossover Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2001
    Messages:
    2,049
    Likes Received:
    799
  12. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,876
    Likes Received:
    32,601
    Well if they were going to protest him personally, then they should have done it a year ago because that's when it would have mattered possibly. Since they didn't, and not enough people showed up to vote against him, we're stuck with him. Whining about it now isn't going to help anything.....and that's all this really is, whining about losing an election.

    Now if he actually does something worthy of protest now that he's president, then by all means protest. Hell I might join them because there are a lot of things he's said in the past that I would find highly unacceptable if he actually did or tried to do. Till then though, it's just crying over spilled milk.

    As to "letting politicians know how they feel", the time to do that was in the election, when the people told them how they feel.....and how they felt was that they wanted Trump to be president and have Republicans control all of congress and be able to stack the SCOTUS. Elections are how you tell politicians how you feel, not ridiculousness in the streets after the fact.
     
  13. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,939
    Likes Received:
    66,390
    Ashley Judd speech:



    Scarlett speech:



    Fererra speech:

     
  14. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,895
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    They're protesting against the threat of their rights being taken away. If they are legitimately afraid that he'll try to move forward with what all he and his cabinet appointees support, why should they wait until after his administration has already taken the action? That wouldn't be a very effective opposition strategy.
     
    R0ckets03, B-Bob and JayGoogle like this.
  15. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,323
    Likes Received:
    45,192
    This isn't whining, this is actually doing something? So a year ago protesting isn't whining but doing it now is? Obviously they are protesting now for the future and not the past. So why continue to bring up the past about it? Protesting NOW does do something about it, it does more than not protesting, does it not?

    As for voting, how do you know that these people didn't vote? That's a large assumption, considering that they all happeend in pretty liberal cities so it's safe to say they probably did vote and that it didn't really matter. You think the people protesting in New York had ANYTHING to do with him winning? They are doing all they can and that protest is something they can do about it now.

    Also, you realize why the founding fathers were for protests? It was so you let your elected officials know your disgust with them. That's the exact reason to protest. An elected official just doesn't sit in their spot and get ignored for their entire term. People in New York and California had only so much impact on the election and you are telling them to magically do more than what is legally possible for them to do. All they can do is remind the politicians that the national laws they set affect them too and that they too are Americans.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  16. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,986
    Likes Received:
    36,841
    Totally agree. Or they are just negative nabobs who always tear down anything that anyone else feels good about. It's as predictable as a poorly coded bot.

    Look, at MINIMUM, if thousands of people who are scared by Trump / Pence now feel much better b/c they see they have kindred spirits, that alone is a good thing. Period. Even if you love Trump, why would you not want millions of women to feel calmer and safer than they did before? To feel a broad sense of community? It's a net positive, apart from politics.

    For every woman who turned up today there were at least a couple more who didn't attend but felt great seeing the turnout on TV and on the web. Take that to the bank.
     
    gifford1967 and JayGoogle like this.
  17. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    Like I said, address those events first. You don't have to say exactly what I want, though all I want is a condemnation of blatant immature and criminal behavior. If you want to say something different, fine, but you keep avoiding the topic. I mean, it's not like you didn't try to defend your side regarding those events before - you tried to rope in a totally unrelated incident to smear conservatives too to give a 'you too!' argument, which is intellectually dishonest. So can you finally stop dodging the question and give a straight answer?
     
  18. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,150
    Likes Received:
    23,432
    There was violence? With more than 1 million protesters, more if you count every country, there bound to be some incidents. But I have heard nothing but peaceful protest.
     
  19. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051
    That is soooo weird because in a previous thread when protesters violated their permit, you know a crime, you flipped your lid about how unfair it was for them to be arrested but here you are flipping your lid because "it's a crime".

    You just can't hide your white supremacist stripes.
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,086
    Likes Received:
    14,150
    lol whiny right wingers getting their panties turned over people peacefully protesting and posting videos. Need a safe space?

    Its amazing how hypocritical these guys are. I have never seen a bigger group of p*****s.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now