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Bill O'Brien out?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Jan 1, 2017.

  1. Two Sandwiches

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    Giving Wade credit for JJ is just calling it like it is. Wade has consistently taken credit for it. No one has ever denied him credit.
     
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    I hope this coach has been hiding the real offensive playbook all this season, in order to not help belichek in the film room. If they come out with that conservative bs, that L will be swift af.
     
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    Exactly; I am not defending him. He's done some things well like I mentioned and what Eddie mentioned.

    It's either BOB leaving, Rick Smith being promoted/moved, or everything staying the same and BOB being miserable and this team continuing their mediocrity
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Of course, because Rick Smith doesn't make the draft picks. He just has the title
     
  5. Hank McDowell

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    That all of this continues to come up right before one of the biggest games in franchise history is certainly telling. It sounds to me like McNair and Rick Smith have ****ed up yet again. The level of incompetency on that side of the organization is disturbing and it sounds to me like O'Brien is fed up. When a coach opens up about his wife asking him where they are going to live next year, you know something is up. Not a good sign!
     
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    O'Brien wants to put to an end all the speculation that he's trying to leave the Texans. Said he will be back.

    I spoke with Bill O'Brien this morning and he assured me he's not going anywhere and will continue coaching the Texans.

    Uh oh!
     
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    Lol at waiting until game day to end the distraction
     
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    Yeah. This whole thing is an absolute joke. Very disappointing.
     
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    I'm really beginning to not like this guy for reasons unrelated to football. What a total chickensh!t move.
     
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  10. Nimo

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    When has Smith ever personally taken credit for anything? A good GM listens to his scouts and coaches and strongly considered their advise. Someone on the staff said Smith wanted Patrick Peterson (not a bad choice); but once Patrick was off the table Rick wanted Watt or Fairly. Read this quote:

     
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    Smith could have said "No." We're going somewhere else. He must have liked JJ to have made that pick. You don't really want a GM that takes credit personally for certain moves. He didn't even take credit for Arian Foster. He always talks about the staff or the team making the decision; but he is the boss. He has to sign off on all draft picks and free agent signings - good and bad.
     
  12. Nick

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    He vehemently denied having much to do with Schaub, especially once he started to go bad. He's never owned up to the Ed Reed debacle. He also distanced himself from any bad decision during the 2-14 season, happily throwing Kubiak under the bus.

    He'll never be in charge of "everything", thus this gives him plausible deniability when things don't go well... which I fully expect when they try to defend his job in light of the Brock debacle.
     
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    Do you have quotes? Or just hearsay? From what I read Smith always spoke highly of Schaub while he was here.

    What is there to own up to with Ed Reed? They signed him. It was a bad move. It didn't work out. What do you want him to do? Come out and say "my bad"?

    Kubiak's firing after that 2-14 season sounded more like a McNair move. There is no proof that Smith threw Kubiak under the bus.

    Like most things in life, a lot of the decisions involve multiple people. So you can't say one person is the only one responsible of making a move or drat pick. No one should escape the blame with Brock.
     
  16. Nick

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    On the one hand, you want to claim that Rick has his hands in everything as a GM should... on the other hand, you claim he's not really at fault for all the bad decisions.

    In the end, he has zero valid credentials to be the man in charge... to be an NFL GM period. No GM or front office regime survives a 2-14 season, unless they weren't really making major decisions. No GM gets to preside over 3 different coaching regimes
     
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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...exans-brass-not-parting-ways-with-bill-obrien

    Texans brass not parting ways with Bill O'Brien

    Behind closed doors, the Texans feel the same way about head coach Bill O'Brien as they claim to in public. In short: He's not going anywhere.

    NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Saturday that "Texans brass has made it clear to teams during the coaching search process that they won't lose Bill O'Brien, just as they've said publicly they won't fire him (Saturday)." This jibes with the reporting of Houston Chronicle NFL reporter John McClain, who Tweeted Saturday morning that he spoke personally with O'Brien, and that O'Brien "assured me he's not going anywhere and will continue coaching the Texans."

    A week ago, Rapoport reported that teams needing a coach -- then a majority of the six teams with openings this winter -- would be interested in O'Brien's future should the Texanslose early in the postseason.

    The grind of an NFL season can wear on relationships and cause plenty of mental fatigue. Whatever was motivating any potential separation between O'Brien and the Texans seems to be calming down. Houston may have realized that they have a coach who, in three seasons, has won the division twice and has never finished with a losing record.

    Also, the only head coach opening right now is in San Francisco, which is far less desirable in terms of available personnel than in Houston.

    The AFC South will inevitably get more competitive in the coming seasons. It wouldn't be wise for Houston to cast off a coach with a winning reputation when the formula has gone well thus far compared to many other teams.
     
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    That is far from what I'm saying. I'm saying he signs off from every move - good and bad ones. If you make him responsible for Ed Reed, then you also give him credit for Jonathan Joseph. If you say JJ Watt wasn't his pick then maybe Sam Montgomery wasn't his pick either.

    The reason he survived a 2-14 season is because the same players. for the most part, were 12-4 the previous season. That season was a fluke.
     
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    http://m.chron.com/sports/texans/ar...with-Texans-10857820.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile
     

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