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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2016-17

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 12, 2016.

  1. Fantasma Negro

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    **** no
     
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    Agreed. It would be silly not to sign him for peanuts if he gets bought out. Would much rather him standing in the corner than Brewer for example.

    Alas, I expect him to sign with Golden State or San Antonio like all of these vets do in this situation.
     
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    What's your objection to him for free?
     
  4. Fantasma Negro

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    I hear you, my main aim is Nurkic, I like Chandler but Dekker gives us what Chandler will give us with less defense but plays with better energy. Nurkic is being undervalued in Denver for 22yr old that can score, defend (a little) and rebound on a 2mil contract. And even still, I'd rather have Noel. Noel> Nurkic, Nurkic >Koufus, Koufus>Nanu
     
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    When will he play? Whose minutes is he gonna take? Ariza, Dekker, Anderson? At this point in the season I'd rather have another big than another shooter. Our problem is rebounding, not shooting. If we can get a big and Dunlevey then by all means make it happen but at the age of 37 he wasn't contributing on a championship team. This seems more Anderson Varejao than anything. Just a body on the bench
     
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    He would take Brewer's minutes, and he's free. He doesn't block you from adding anyone else, in fact he might make it easier because you don't have to waste an asset adding someone to take those 15 minutes.
     
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    Brewer. I absolutely believe if you can add an efficient shooter at no cost, you do it. Dekker's shot is not reliable, neither is Brewer's. He can play defense, and it provides flexibility for more moves to be made.
     
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    Not to gang up on you. K. Love also had trouble fitting in with the Cavs for over a year.
     
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    K.Love had to adjust not being THE GUY anymore, dunleavy was a role player before and now. U can't conpare these two. With that being said, i still take him if hes free.
     
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    You're underestimating Brewer's slashing and penetrating ability. His shooting is cringe-worthy but as a wing he runs the floor hard, creates fast breaks out of mid-air, and actually plays very good defense. I'd still trade his bricklaying ass in a hot second but not for a guy ten years older that only does one thing. Having him in practice could be good for morale but if we're adding someone at this point in the season it needs to be someone with extensive playoff experience.
     
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    I'm not pretending he's a world beater by any stretch, but for no cost I'm not sure why we avoid an incremental upgrade.
     
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    Brewer is about 5 years younger, but who's counting.

    Dunleavy does more than just shoot. He's a good passer, a capable defender, etc. Historically he is a significantly better offensive player than Brewer and a slightly better defender. This is the first year than Brewer grades fractionally better as a defender and neither is particularly good.
     
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    That was a different type of adjustment, Love was figuring how to play with Lebron. He still rebounds, plays (meh) defense and can shoot from the 18 out and has post moves, he's a younger Rhyno. Dunlevey has nothing to give, just look at the trade. Lebron traded Dunlevy, a stand in the corner shooter for Korver a younger (barely) stand in the corner shooter. If Dunlevy had any value Lebron would've just kept him instead
     
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    Dunleavy also had to make a huge adjustment, if anything that would be a complaint for us as well. He has been an initiator on offense for most of his career. In Cleveland he was asked to be nothing but a spot shooter, play 15 minutes a game and get like 4 shots, lowest of his career. The result was he could not get into a rhythm, didn't get hot from 3 and basically got frozen out by Lebron. The reports are that he wasn't popular with Lebron, Kyrie and JR Smith and they essentially just didn't want to play with him.
     
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    At no cost right now, would you rather have Dunlevey or Josh Smith. I'm talking good Josh Smith, cross up your children and dunk on your mama Smoove, remember that guy. He's available in two weeks
     
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    Korver is a SIGNIFICANTLY better shooter than Dunleavy. I'd much rather have Korver, but unfortunately we don't have the option to sign him for free. Lebron is more ruthless than Morey; always looking for incremental upgrades on players no matter what feelings get hurt. He churns players like nothing and the most important thing is you need to get along with him and you need to hit your threes.
     
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    Josh Smith wouldn't take minutes from anyone on this team so I have no interest in him.
     
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    Exactly, they play the exact same role, one is still young enough to play it semi-efficiently and the other is staring down the barrel of retirement.
     
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    Semi-efficiently? I don't think you know what the word efficient means.

    Dunleavy was still shooting better than league average, Korver is still elite. That's the difference Brewer is historically bad at that skill.
     
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    Josh
    Josh Smith would sure up the center rotation until Capela gets back and then he could play 20 mins per game at the 3,4,&5 spots. Guys we need rebounding, I don't think you guys are understanding how serious this is. Our two leading rebounders are our point guards.
     
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