The unethical behavior hasn't been dismissed. I don't know where you've been but they've fired some of the people, forced others to resign, and generally cleaned house. When are you going to stop confusing the two issues? They aren't the same. The DNC can clean house to correct their mess. At the same time the United States can take action to punish those that committed the espionage and tried to subvert our democracy.
We already 'punished' Russia by expelling their diplomats and shutting down two of their facilities. You're quick to move on from your own partys corruption but want to dwell on Russia.
Do you think DNC's corruption and unethical behavior has been solved by removing a couple rotten apples? We almost elected one of their chiefs.
If Hitler or Stalin set up a propaganda office in the United States in the 40's and 50's in order to affect US policy towards Germany and the USSR, and used them in concert with various illegal acts committed as part of a larger scheme to, say, defeat FDR or Harry Truman - would it have been allowed to remain open?
Lol at corruption, as if RNC is any less corrupt or Trump is going to have a clean administration. Politicians will be corrupt, that is a given, just as death and taxes.
So we should ignore out own politicians corruption and instead focus our rage at foreign adversaries. Gotcha.
I've already discussed the problems with the DNC in the appropriate threads. This thread is about Russia. But if you want to talk about party corruption, remember what the RNC and Ron Paul supporters did in 2012? What efforts were taken by the RNC to fix those problems? Were you outraged at the time?
No..... this is about a foreign nation that is at odds with the United States and the EU; attempting to compromise the democratic system and influence United States elections. It is about Russia hacking into multiple private and governmental systems. If you want to start a thread about Hillary Clinton (really would be the DNC), go right ahead. However it is something separate from what is going on with Russia. The fact that you are willing to put political party identification ABOVE basic United States safety is nothing short of disgusting and you should be ashamed. There is a reason that BOTH political parties in congress are severely concerned about Russian involvement.
This is the biggest load of willful ignorance on this board. There is a thread on the DNC and Hillary Clinton. Indeed, if there wasn't a foreign adversary taking steps to influence United States policy and elections; most likely there would be more attention given to the issues with the DNC. Party over country? Gotcha!
what if's are useless because what if hitler didn't become hitler and stalin didn't become stalin. or what if podesta used a secure password. what if you were born in soviet union? you would love putin wouldn't you. that said, i would stand up and slow clap if all 24/7 cable news was banned or sanctioned. it's a sick and disgusting business with very little accountability. i would also ban anonymous sources, especially the use of direct quotes from anonymous sources.
We should always dismiss espionage by Russia when Hillary runs a poor campaign. Unethical behavior is always more important than felony hacking of American political parties by Russia. Derpy derp.
Sam, Just curious. Have you watched much RT or are you just relying on pissed off Hillary supporters and neo-con criticism ? Opposing another Cold War and having Americans on who criticize our foreign policy are perfectly appropriate uses of free speech, especially given the self censorship of our media.
Franchise, do you ever consider accessing media that is to the left of the NYT which helped bring us the Iraq War as the supposedly liberal limit of serious respectability? E.g The Nation, In These Times, Consortium News etc.
"protection of our democracy" lol good sound bite. Smacks of good focus group testing. Just like "global war on terror" or "wmd" arriving by boat or dirigible from Iraq to get us in our houses. Who doesn't want to protect our democracy? We should trust the intelligence guys to take the lead on this -- the folks , who promote regime change in other countries whether democratically elected of not , who a year or two ago lied on TV about their spying on us and their secret torture chambers around the world.
Well, no Sam, but don't get all McCarthy on us. Try to remain calm. You will not be taken over by the Commies and the 50% or so of Americans who don't see it like you are not 5th columnists for Stalinism or Nazisim. Neither are they "useful idiots"
I don't really get it. The DNC was shown to be corrupt and clearly favored one candidate over the others. That's terrible but let's face the fact that corrupt party politics, certainly a tradition in this country, pales in comparison to a foreign power hacking American political parties to influence the election of the most powerful political position on the face of the planet. I'm incredulous at this preposterous deflection. The Russians are trying to set up an American puppet President. Who knows what dirt the Russians have on Trump and the RNC that they didn't release to Wikileaks. Who knows what financial ties Trump has with Russia since he refused to release his taxes. This has disaster written all over it.
And the answer of course, is that you would think it would *perfectly fine*. There's no such thing as a credible foreign threat to glynch that could ever be worse than the Pentagon or Langley! Hey, have you ever read the works of Dr. Ron Paul? You and Arlo Guthrie would be right at home. I'm relying on common sense and the facts as they reasonably appear to today, not the alternate reality of Trump, RIA-Novosti, and his enablers such as yourself:
