They have been? Have they also been working Mitch McConnel, John McCain, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, and most of the Republican party? Which part of the released evidence did you find made up by the media and Obama? Please site which part of the released report was fiction and created by our intelligence agencies. I'm waiting on you and others to stop making up conspiracy theories and pulling them out of your ass, and actually show some proof. Go ahead, show it. Which part was made up? We're waiting.
What is it that ties the CIA, FBI and the NSA together? They are all run by Obama political appointees. At one point we were told that all 17 intelligence agencies had signed on to the Obama ordered investigation of Russian efforts to undermine Hillary Clinton's campaign. But now it is apparently down to just three such agencies being included. Also, no dissenting opinions were permitted in this very brief five page report. For those of you who are satisfied by the "We just have to trust them" approach and the curiously brief and hastily contrived report that the Obama team has produced by it, I will leave you to that. As for me, I will be holding out for the more thorough investigation that will be conducted by the US Senate in the months to come.
So you continue to pull this conspiracy crap out of your ass and have zero evidence? It seems obvious that you either didn't read the report, or somehow weren't able to comprehend that report. The evidence is there. You haven't been able to show one piece of evidence to counter what was provided. You just tried to make a connection between the intel agencies and Obama, but have yet to tie it to Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, John McCAin, Lindsay Graham, and all of the other Republicans and harsh critics of Obama. Please explain why they decided join this conspiracy? Please show one piece of evidence that shows how the evidence in the report you apparently haven't read is all wrong. God we're still waiting, and you've shown us nothing but something that seems entirely concocted out of thin air.
Oh Mojo... What annoys me about "Russia Today" is that it shows up in my Google news feed along with other dopey sites created by goons and nutballs. Keep that crap out of my news feed dude.
I am not trying to "counter" anything in the report. Both the Russians and us are involved in hacking and the dissemination of misleading information on a pretty regular basis. It will surprise me none at all if the Russians actually did all of this stuff. What is obvious is that the pursuit of this narrative at this time is all part of a petulant hysterical meltdown by Obama and the Democrat left in the aftermath of their epic losses, not just at the presidential level, but all up and down the ballot. It is an effort at political retribution in the waining days of Obama's presidency. In keeping with that, this report does not appear to be sufficiently comprehensive or unbiased to be accepted as the last word on this. I will be holding out for the rest of the story. As it stands, this just doesn't add up. It smells. Also, as far as conspiracies, that is exactly what you and your tribe are promoting by suggesting the Russians did this. If they did, that would clearly constitute a conspiracy. So those who live in glass houses should refrain from throwing stones. Also, to the extent that you continue to try to perceive everyone as either agreeing with you and the members of your tribe, or as advocating a view that is the exact inverse of the view of the people of your tribe, you make yourself look intellectually small. You might want to rethink that mental approach. Just saying.
Nothing like this has ever happened to the United States before. There have been hacks, but not on the election and nothing to the extent we have seen in this particular election. To So if you believe the Russians actually did it, then why is it part of a meltdown by anyone? As far as conspiracies the idea that the Russians did it is backed by evidence. So those in evidence based houses are free to throw stones. I've mentioned over and over numerous names of politicians that disagree with me on almost every issue, but have managed to put the U.S. first over the Russians in this case. So if by my tribe, you mean all Americans who care about upholding our democracy, then sure, I'm talking bad about those outside of that particular tribe. But if you are talking about conservatives, Republicans, Trump voters, or political opponents then you are way off base. There are very few issues where I'm in the same tribe as Rand Paul, Mitch McConnell, or Lindsay Graham, but this is one them. However small it makes me to oppose that are willing to let foreign nations conduct espionage and try belittle the democracy of this nation, that I'm grateful for even thought it elected Trump, then so be it.
Liberals are pissed that Podesta got duped by the phishing email, and the dems' sorry efforts to rig the election were exposed for all to see. Seems like a big case of shift the blame to me...
Now that I think about it I don't really see what the FCC needs to get involved. Seems like you could build a pretty good RICO case against RT, the Russian hackers, etc. You have an ongoing enterprise, multiple felonies in furtherance thereof. Even more interestingly, why can't the DNC bring a civil RICO action...that would be awesome
No it isn't. This is about Barack Obama and the Democrat left lashing out at their political adversaries in the aftermath of a comprehensive repudiation of their political tactics and their agenda. It is about their effort to deflect responsibility for their humiliating defeat over the last six years, up and down the ballot. It is about efforts by them to corrupt and delegitimize our democratic process and the current president elect, and then try to shift the blame away from themselves for their many failures and onto someone else. These people are truly despicable. They really are.
So it's not the hacking of a political party by a foreign power that has corrupted and delegitimized our democratic process, it's the investigation of the hacking. The hacking doesn't matter because Hillary Clinton ran a poor campaign. Derp. This is what happens when you listen to too much talk radio. You just lose your damn mind in trying to gin up political nonsense to deflect from actual issues that face the country.
Hillary ran a poor campaign so we should dismiss all of the unethical behavior by the DNC and instead blame Russia for exposing the corruption.
No. If Hilary/DNC feel aggrieved, they can sue for libel/defamation. Short of yelling fire in a movie theater, veracity, not motive, should be the test for speech. Though I do relish the thought of setting a precedent for sanctioning Faux News, which has been doing its thing for far longer than RT. (Actually, just realized that Rupert Murdoch is an American citizen. Also didn't know we, like China, has (once had?) restrictions on foreign interests in broadcasting: http://articles.latimes.com/1985-09-04/news/mn-23112_1_rupert-murdoch. Under whose watch did we dismantle that? I suspect Democrats but I'm too lazy to look.)
My respect to Lindsay Graham for being able to put aside partisanship for a moment and respond to the actual issue: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...to-explain-his-response-to-russia-report.html
It's all good. The Dems are just returning the favor that the Repugs did for Obama eight years ago. Suck it, buttercup.
