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[2016-2017] Donatas Motiejunas as a New Orleans Pelican

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Snow Villiers, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. JJWhat?

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    You said 31 million guaranteed. Only 5 million were guaranteed in a 4 year contract, yeah, DMo walked away from amazing deal. NOT. AND he didnt walk away, he couldn't. Rockets didnt sign under the contract.
     
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    You seem a little bit repetitive and clueless. Yes, DMo is not some star player, far from it. But as @DaDakota said, he was an asset and a very good role player who was always a good teammate and loved it here in Houston. And he walked for nothing. And I'm fairly sure it won't be the last time Morey lets an asset walk like that. It could be Dekker, it could be Harrell... who knows. It just seems to be Morey's pattern, and one of his flaws.
     
  3. Newlin

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    And what was the amount that DMo would have signed for exactly? Rockets could have upped the offer to what? I guess everyone has their price. But, maybe Dmo was holding out for something completely unreasonable. Something even you would find unreasonable.
     
  4. omgTHEpotential

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    He would have signed for exactly 4years/37M with year 2 and year 3 and year 4 being team options. Also, he would have probably signed for something like 4years/32M if you gave him 2 or 3 guaranteed years. I think this is fairly obvious.
     
  5. T for 3

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    repetitive? not as repetitive as the DMO apologists who whine every time he breathes. As, usual you are missing the point. (as some do on this forum who become fixated on one player.) I get that he was a role player morey let walk, I get that he could have been a contributor here. What I disagree on, is that the level of his possible contribution does not warrant the amount of attention he is getting.

    Oh, you are Lithuanian, don't bother responding. I understand now. I would be upset too.
     
  6. omgTHEpotential

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    I don't hide the fact that I'm a DMo fan. I feel sorry for you though because you cannot even hold a proper discussion. "Don't bother responding", "Whine". This is not how a civilized discussion works. And as for "doesn't warrant the amount of attention he is getting" - what are you saying exactly? This is a thread about him. Therefore we talk about him. If you do not have anything of substance to provide (which you haven't done yet) then go to other forums/threads and spout your drivel there.
     
  7. T for 3

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    You are right I probably should have known what i was getting into posting in this thread in the first place. you are more than welcome to discuss the DMO saga until you can no longer type. However, this is one of the MANY dmo related threads I see daily, and while I did like DMO alot when he was here, I think I speak for the majority on CF when I say that we would rather not continually discuss DMO. We would prefer to discuss the state of the current team.
     
  8. omgTHEpotential

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    You can do that in the GARM. I don't think there are any DMo threads left there. The Dish is specifically for non-Rockets news/discussion.
     
  9. T for 3

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    yes, just as I'm sure there is a NO pelicans form somewhere where you would fit in quite nicely. You could add some Lithuanian flavor :)
     
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  10. omgTHEpotential

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    I like it here. One of the reasons why I so wanted for DMo to stay in Houston. Rockets have one of the most active fanbases in the whole league. Pelicans have exactly 3 fans. 2 of them are Lithuanian. :oops:
     
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    Firstly - I wish D-Mo was still on the Rockets. I wish we matched word for word the Nets offer - if that's truly the only reason D-Mo is now a Pelican.

    However, Rockets management are running a business and fall into a group of honestly 99% of all other business' who, if were given the option of paying an employee X amount with bonuses VS X amount only - they're going to pay them X amount only no matter how vital, well liked or necessary that employee is.

    We can hate on Morey all we want for 'lowballing' but he did what every other team in this league would've done in that situation.

    Not one is going to see a bench players' contract state that you may match the bonus portion of the contract but it isn't necessary and think 'you know what I'm going to give this guy $7,000,000 in bonuses what the heck'
     
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  12. T for 3

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    i'm glad you like it. That's also good to hear about the rockets fan base. TBH it was an unnecessary rant of a post on my part it certainly wasn't directed toward you specifically. like i said if i was Lithuanian I would be very upset as well.
     
  13. Grydian

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    They worked out the contract details. He failed his physical with the rockets and the NBA stepped in and forced the rockets to release him. Morey was perhaps a bit cut throat but that was all resolved. The bottom line is the rockets doctors are much more willing to fail a player for a physical than most teams are. It seems a bit foolish when even a half strength Dmo is still better than nothing at all. In the end the only real thing that caused this to fall apart was his aging body.
     
  14. Newlin

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    DD said he would have signed in the summer if the Rockets had upped their offer. I'm talking about in the summer, not a few weeks ago. How do we know what he would have signed for in the summer?
     
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    Dang, I thought I'd check in here to get some stats or performance news.

    Instead this reads like a lite Jeremy Lin thread.

    EDIT: Thanks to whoever posted the video a few pages ago.
     
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  16. SeekingAlpha

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    DMo doesn't look any noticeably slower than when he played for us last season. Still a solid passer, has some range, and can work the post. I continue to remain skeptical about him failing the Rockets' physical.
     
  17. TEXNIFICENT

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    DMO signed the original deal with the Nets and the Rox matched. The Rox didn't do anything outside the rules but try to tear up the matched offer. However you want slice it he walked away from MILLIONS for a 600k tryout. Just remember anyone in the whole NBA could have made him an "amazing deal" but this is what they came back to the table with. The Rox minimized their risk and BJ wouldn't let his client report.
     
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    Very good post. DD is really subjective when it comes to his boys, first of all he thinks Morey should've matched Parsons contract even knowing Parsons would be injured 3 years and now he's whining DMo isn't on the team. This is because DD's personality is always all in, he's all for high risk moves and when those don't pan out, he's gonna blame Morey for being a dumbass. I remember when Royce White was a prospect DD was posting on how these are the type of guys Morey should take a chance on, then when it turned out Royce White was a scammer DD was also the first one complaining LOL a guy who turns coat on his opinions at a drop of a hat, you really shouldn't waste any time trying to reason with him because when proved wrong he's just gonna pull a "I'm just a fan" card and won't admit he was wrong.

    DM's role right now is to be risk averse, whether by accident or design he created a masterpiece of a roster. Now the worst thing he can do is **** it up by adding in a cancer or waste what little capspace we have left signing a lemon. I'm a big DMo fan, in fact unlike other people here IMHO DMO has star potential. But if there's even 1% chance that the guy DM is gonna get is gonna be injured or he's a cancer risk, I don't want him on the team. Not messing up this team and what we have should be the no 1 priority. Everyone realizes we can fit a max contract next year if we just dump Brewer right? Well what happens if DM pays DMo his 7M per year and he turns out injured? Our remaining capspace isn't enough to sign another superstar to pair with Harden while keeping our amazing roster together. Bye chance of a lifetime, it would be like when Houston could've had MJ and Hakeem together but then got a perpetually injured Ralph Sampson instead.

    Whether DMO pans out or not, DM did the irght thing by making the dude unrestricted.The roster is too important to be doing risky moves.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    DM's JOB is to keep good players and build a championship roster. He has done a pretty good job in some cases and a pretty crap job in others. He is a good GM, not a great one.

    And I am not all in at all, I just want to keep good players that fill a role.

    The only thing we should be asking is whether DMo would help more than Bobby Brown.


    DD
     
  20. daywalker02

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    It looks Dmo does not need the physical lol, he look ok.
     

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