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CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Probably why Russian officials celebrated Trump's victory:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...4ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.4615d4f16a76
     
  2. MojoMan

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    All of these intelligence agencies are part of the Obama regime. Make no mistake about it, this is Barack Obama's report, with all of his reputation for dishonesty and corruption that goes along with that.
     
  3. Amiga

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    To start, birtherism and all things obama - a muslim, starting war to win re-election and so on. Suggesting Scalia may be murdered, Cruz's dad involvement in JFK assassination, claiming thousands of Muslim was in NJ celebrating on 9/11, claiming CDC is lying about Ebola, vaccines cause autism, Climate change is a global hoax created by the chinese, voting system is out of control, media is out to get him.
     
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  4. Amiga

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    LOL. This is just sad. Now it's obama report. These people are really dumb.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    What do the Intel agencies get out of making stuff up and vouching for a fake report?

    To claim that U.S. intel agencies aren't serving the United States but are instead serving Obama in some massive conspiracy is based on zero evidence and is a figment of your imagination. What do conservatives like Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham and others have to gain by going along with these bogus reports?
     
  6. No Worries

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    And Obama had the FBI Director Comey b**** slap Hillary in the last week of the election ... because ... reasons!!!
     
  7. Anticope

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    Keep doing the Kremlin's work for them, I hope you're getting compensated well at least.
     
  8. MojoMan

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    Obama is their boss for another two weeks.

    Also, it is Obama and his employees in the intelligence agencies that initiated the conspiracy thepries about Russia trying to rig the election. That is a well documented fact.
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    So, you and other Trump supporters, er, "conservatives" would prefer to believe Assange and Hannity and not America's intelligence leadership? Puts you in extremely fringy minority.

    Hmm... seems that even GOP leadership is distancing itself from you, Assange/Hannity and Trump.
     
  10. Amiga

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    Now I'm curious. What is this fact you are referring to?
     
  11. Aceshigh7

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    I don't believe these intelligence agencies one bit. They are so partisan and biased to the current administration that it is ridiculous.

    For weeks we have been hearing in the media how "sources" within the intelligence agencies believe Russia played a role. Why would any "sources" be talking to the media about that? By nature of their very business, those people working in the intelligence field are supposed to be keeping their mouth shut about security matters. Not speaking to the media.

    This whole Russian connection is merely a coordinated smear campaign to delegitimatize Trump.

    Just like the disproved groping allegations, the "secret server" in Trump Tower, the "indications of vote manipulation in Wisconsin", etc. etc. All proven to be without substance.

    The left is ruthless and they don't like having lost.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    ^ person who lives in his own reality, not worth the trouble to mock, and should be discounted and ignored.

    Done.
     
  13. Aceshigh7

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    The media and biased political figures want you to believe their narrative, and it's obvious they have succeeded in your case.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    No, it was evidence that initiated the idea that Russia was trying to rig the election. Intel agencies have nothing to gain by making this stuff up. If the boss person is motive then if anything they would have something to gain by playing along with Trump since he will be their boss for the next 4 years, and the future of their jobs would be at stake.

    Sorry but you're theories aren't rational and certainly aren't based on any evidence.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    What? You believe there is a partisan bias toward Democrats from people like Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Lindsay Graham, and John McCain among other Republicans in congress?

    Why do they believe the evidence they've seen? What do they have to gain?

    They CIA released their analysis of exactly how the hacks happened, provided enough evidence to have warrants issued, and nothing you posted disproves any of it.

    Separate issue, none of the groping allegations against Trump have been disproven.

    You are making a claim of a wild conspiracy involving the President of the United States, the FBI (who released reports damaging to Hillary Clinton who you claim that are biased in her favor), The CIA, every other intel agency working to protect the United States, Conservative Republicans in congress, etc. Yet despite these crazy wild claims you have no evidence to back it up. NONE, ZERO.
     
  16. MojoMan

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    From "The Hill":

    It’s time to close the books on ‘Putingate’

    Hillary Clinton and her staunchest defenders have still not accepted the results of the election. They continue to believe that victory was theirs and that it was only denied because of foul play. But not even Vladimir Putin was wily enough to end the Clinton dynasty. His agenda is to earn points by appearing to influence our elections — he may fancy himself the author of Hillary’s demise.

    But the truth is that only Clinton is to blame for her epic political downfall. The day she decided to break the law and communicate secretively from her bathroom server, she cemented in the minds of Americans that another Clinton term would be accompanied by the same old Clinton hijinks, at a time when the American worker never felt so low.

    No, a powerful world leader is not what ended our Clinton Camelot. Simply put, ordinary voters, some with their names stitched on their work uniforms, did it. Election Day 2016 reminded all of us that the little folks in flyover country still outnumber the rich and powerful, and collectively they can be inspired to get involved and can still determine who gets the keys to the Oval Office.

    We all want the straight facts on Putin and Russia, but it is time to close the book on the never-ending Clinton campaign and the conspiracy theories of 2016.



    /End thread.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    LOL, odd he would attribute it The Hill, but not provide a link. Perhaps because its an op piece from the chairman of the American Conservative Union and CPAC (and former political director to GWB? Who apparently doesn't think Russia's efforts to involve itself and influence our election is that important?
     
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    You wish. There isn't a shred of proof to anything that you're saying, you're just so absurdly hyper partisan at this point that you'll accept anything that disparages your political opponents as fact. In fact, it's gotten so ridiculous to the point that, dare I say, you and others who believe this apparently deem people that you disagree with politically in your own country to be bigger enemies than foreign governments and their stooges. Dangerous territory that you guys are walking on right now.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    Apparently, Trump now believes Russia (and other countries) hack our systems:
    Of course, he still refuses to acknowledge that they had any influence on the election:
    So, the Russians may have hacked, but didn't tamper with voting machines, so all is good.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-...d-of-classified-briefing-on-russia-1483728966
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Declassified version of the report/briefing Trump got:

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

    I don't think we can go around saying "Trump won the election, fair and square" anymore.

    That is almost certainly not the case - he was substantially assisted, in violation of US Law, by foreign agents and in particular one foreign despot. who want to hurt American interests in order to advance their own.

    That is the definition of "not a legitimate President."
     
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