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CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

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    Guilty. Actually, I did change. I'm not really that involved in politics at this point. Most were just doodlings in between writing projects. Trump won, we can't change that, and I have too many things going on at this point to worry about the outcome. We all have to live with it, regardless.

    I choose to be positive for 2017. Rockets are doing great, business is booming, life is good.
     
  2. Amiga

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    LOL. I like the broken english. Good way to communicate at Trump level.
     
  3. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

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    The thing is that, because resume writing is an abbreviated form of writing / rhetoric, the abbreviated style I used mirrored it a bit. You know, in resumes you say stuff like, "Led team of 10 in full-cycle ERP system implementation that generated $50M+ in annual savings" instead of "I led a team of 10 in a full-cycle..." So, the "character" lent itself to that. And b/c I'm into fiction writing, I actually created a storyline behind the guy. He is an Argentinian who fought in the Falkland Islands War, has 2 wives, owns a capybara as a pet, and has an extensive knowledge of history and culture as indicated by references to Voltaire, Scorsese, and Minaj.

    Anyway, time for everyone to get on with their lives. We have Trump, we can't change that, deal with it, help out your community, be the best at what you do (and liberals- keep Trump's feet to the fire, but at least give him a chance once he's in office as we would expect the other side to do- if he screws up, then we'll react to it)- all the cliches apply- and some are cliches for a reason- b/c they're positive guideposts for better living.

    I know, sounds like a ****ing Up With People, Kumbaya speech- but, screw it, I'm Kumbaya-esque today.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    17 years of resume writing. Good training. Learn to write very economically. Truncated. Very annoying having to constantly type tRUMP that way, though. Again, harmless fun. Learned that ultimatum-type bets are silly. Better to look the opponent in the eye, congratulate them, and if you have discussions with people, keep it civil. Give peace a chance (TY, J.L. & Y.O.!)

    All of us have moments where we see ourselves on the other side of the conservative / liberal divide, so you try to respect the others' opinions while disagreeing and sticking to your principles (not principals- I've seen that mistake 3 times this week already- ugh). Melting down has been a major failure of mine in the past, but that's cool- you live and learn best sometimes from mistakes.

    Very Good!
     
  5. Amiga

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    I speed read often. If everyone write that way, I wouldn't need to. But not everyone is capable. It is a good skill to communicate effectively with limited words.
     
  6. dandorotik

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    Truth!
     
  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I can read 550 words per minute with 98% comprehension. I was tested. That missing 2% is buggin' the hell out of me, though.
     
  8. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Agreed. I can't believe all the bellyaching I've read and seen because of a presidential election not going someone's way. The crying, the excuse making, the conspiracy theories...it's sickening to watch. I thought it was bad when the Republicans lost the past 2 elections, but it looks like the other team is no different...hell maybe worse. Ultimately the life of the vast majority of people on this board isn't going to be any different...but you'd think someone shot their dog and grounded them from their video games for the week...sheesh.
     
  9. dandorotik

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    People have legitimate reasons to be concerned about Trump. However:

    1. At least wait until the guy's in office- then hold his feet to the proverbial fire.
    2. Don't criticize the system only when it goes against you. Criticize it evenly.
    3. Let the other side celebrate- and gloat, if you will. We do it as Rockets fans all the time against other teams, so we can't be fairly angry if it's done to us. Same with politics.

    Even saying all this is going against what I really feel at this point- acting instead of talking. It's not my place to tell anyone what to say or think- so, let people say whatever they want. 100% free speech. For me, the less I get involved deeply in politics and engage in pissing contests on this board, the better my life is.
     
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  10. SamFisher

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    Literally nothing about his post-election conduct has been commendable at all, from late night twitter wars with Saturday Night Live, to knowingly spreading false information, to his train wreck of a transition, to his laughable and dangerous war of denial against the US intelligence establishment, his refusal to divest - he has proven what everyone said - he is dangerously unfit for office.

    To be willfully ignorant of this like you urge us to be is an abdication of responsibility as a citizen.
     
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  11. SamFisher

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    Yes, I'm sure you hate it just as much as you hate screaming at the Daft punks when they come on the radio with their infernal noise and prove how selfish kids today just don't get it.

    Nobody gives a **** about what the unrepentant Yippie fossils think about this, all 12 of you;

    but as I stated before, even Saint Birkenstock Sanders disagrees with you on this - so it's sort of like when you refused to jump off the Hugo Chavez train even after it derailed and burst into flames outside Caracas with the flaming hulk of an engine car coming to rest in an industrial hog farm urine lake.
     
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    Your nativity is breathtaking.
     
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  14. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I've lost plenty of elections, and none of my own worries involve the fact that Clinton lost. It is ALL (for me at least), that an apparently unhinged, immature, opposed-to-study narcissist has won the presidency of the country that I proudly call home. That's it.

    So "the crying" is really about that, for the most part, from people all across the political spectrum.

    Not trying to change your mind or decrease your frustration -- we're all incredibly frustrated, at one level or another -- but I'm trying to distinguish it from sour grapes.

    I've "lost" plenty of elections, as a voter, including the contested election of 2000. I've never been as fearful about the results as this time. It's not butthurt. It's not wishing my person was president. It's the holy-****ing-crap look who will be supposedly leading this country, shouting out via twitter at his "many enemies" like a sixth grade, end-of-bench basketball wannabe. It's freaking horrifying to some of us. It's not about "losing an election" -- I wish that was it, that would be REALLY simple and easy to deal with. It's about how the hell are we going to survive this clown?

    Hopefully, he surprises the hell out of me and others and we ride through here with merely a Berlusconi style administration.
     
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    Heard the EXACT same things when Obama won, only those people were a bit more mature about it for the most part....if only a bit.
     
  16. Deckard

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    Hey! Don't dis the Hog Farm. A good friend of mine OD'ed on some gray acid at the Dallas Pop Festival (AKA the Texas International Pop Festival) and the HG brought him back from the edge in their Trip Tent. I, however, was impervious to any ill effects. August, 1969. The other stuff regarding glynch? Have at it.

    Oh! Did you mean real hogs? That just occurred to me. Never mind.
     
  17. dandorotik

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    It's not being willfully ignorant- but what exactly is you b****ing about it going to accomplish? Zero. That doesn't mean you can't complain- but if I were to complain about every stupid thing Trump says, it would be a huge waste of time b/c he gives us too much material.

    I choose to pick and choose. For example, who gives a **** what he says about SNL? We all know he's a thin-skinned dope, but how is that going to affect anything? We have to hope that he eventually screws up and gets impeached.

    But it's a personal thing with me in that I've got too much going on to worry about every little thing he does. He's an idiot, but he's the President so we don't have a choice but to accept it- or, I should say, it doesnt' matter whether we accept it or not- he's going to be the President, and that's that. I have to focus on what I can do to improve my business, my career, and my community. For others, power to you- keep holding his feet to the fire.
     
  18. Deckard

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    I admire your optimism. My own has left me.
     
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    My sense is that the Donald was aware that Putin was helping him win. I think Putin has something on him and Trump knows it. Might truly be a Manchurian Candidate. I mean, Trump is a demagogue and it would not surprised me if he tried to usurp power.
     
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  20. Deckard

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    Certainly, if there is incontrovertible evidence that Russia actively aided the Trump campaign with Trump's and possibly the inner circle's knowledge, then Putin could very well blackmail Trump. He could threaten to leak "proof" to the same social media/"gotcha" websites that did such a job on Ms. Clinton. He could threaten worse. There is no proof, not yet and there may not be, that that did in fact occur.

    Watergate was blown open by reporters working for an excellent newspaper that was, internally, highly skeptical that the story would turn out to be anything. Of course, it did. It led to the resignation of an American President. Yet as big a story as that was, and as large an impact that it had on this country, if a story blows open a conspiracy by Russia to tilt the election towards Donald Trump, with or without his knowledge, it is a far bigger story than Watergate. Interesting that Mr. Trump has made so much noise about creating, if he can, libel laws to help muzzle our free press. Very interesting indeed.
     

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