CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

So this is the kind of 'objective' reasoning we are getting from the Democrat left and their supporters in the media. What is wrong with this picture?

 

Actually liberals called out the politicians for lying about WMD in Iraq. Quit making crap about being called a racist for disagreeing with Obama. I disagree with Obama about issues such as wall street, trade deals, cracking down on whistle blowers, etc., and I haven't seen you called a racist for disagreeing with Obama.

 

Ummm, the CIA was suspect of the yellow cake documents and expressed doubt about their authenticity - however they were shut up and the bad intel was passed on to Powell regardless. That's not the CIA's fault.

Also, you are making stupid statements.

Bottom line, Russia is hacking into our systems and must be stopped. This isn't about Trump. For once, people need to put country ahead of politics and focus on securing our nation with regards to cyber attacks from anyone - and Trump better realize soon that Putin/Russia is not to be trusted (unless they have enough dirt on him that he has to do what they say).

 

This is a strawman as I haven't seen many democrats claim Taiwan phone call is flirting with WWIII - just a trade war - big difference. Obama expelling Russian diplomats was a bipartisan act.

 

Our allies no longer trust us...and our enemies no longer fear us...
-Obama's legacy

January 20th cant come fast enough as bitter liberals are rapidly decaying years of foreign policy by throwing a tantrum on a global scale...

 

You do know that emperically, the United States is viewed more favorably than it was 8 years ago in Western developed nations? You do know this right? It's an objective fact.


Sauce: http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/14...as-image/pg-2014-07-14-balance-of-power-1-02/

 

I'm guessing most of the people bringing up Iraq WMD trucks don't know the first thing about computer security. If you did, you could, you know, examine the evidence yourself?

Iraq WMD trucks were like looking at a white panel van driving down the street from the outside and deciding there must be burglers inside who are going to break into your house because it looks like there could be. It was inherently a ridiculous amount of extrapolation from the word go.

The evidence here is all transaction logs and left behind intrusion tools. It is concrete evidence. This would be enough to convict someone in court, while the other wold get thrown out as speculation.

But I guess that requires you to actually use your mind and examine the evidence, so maybe that's asking too much from the majority of people.

 

Wordpress security team analyzes information provided by DHS as evidence of Russian hacking and finds nothing that points to Russia

https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/

 

You are obviously missing the point. Knowing about 'computer security' is as relevant as being an expert in biological and chemical weapons. Bush destroyed a nation based on flimsy evidence which was presented to the nation as substantial. Obama and the liberals want to provoke Putin in the same manner.

As stated before, if this was the RNC, liberals would be outraged at the RNC and high fiving Russia for being whistleblowers.

 

This whole thing positively reeks of Democrat party blame shifting and political posturing. It certainly does not make sense to take the word of Barack Obama or any agency of his government at this point.

 

No, I don't think so.... there would be no "high fiving" Putin by the left; and indeed most of those that are in the know on the right believe that the Russians and Putin actively attempted to influence the election through espionage AND have a problem about it.

The sad fact is that party identification matters more than what is in the best interest of the country and our democracy. This is a classic example; some Republicans openly embracing the former Director of the KGB. This isn't only a Republican problem, many Democrats had a serious issue with GW Bush ******** all over the Constitution but had no problem when Obama did it; likewise many Republicans defended the unconstitutional actions of GW Bush as "keeping us safe" and then wanted Obama's head for doing the same.

This country has a false sense of security, to the point that idiots choose their political party of basic common sense principles that really shouldn't even be debated. It is not okay that Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction and set an unstable Middle East into a tail spin killing millions of people, it is not okay that Barrack Obama **** all over the constitution and made the Middle East his own live version of Grand Theft Auto......... and for FSakes it is NOT okay that a nation that we had by the nuts (Russia) went out of their way to influence our Presidential election AND call into question the basic validity of electoral system.

Donald Trump may prove to be a good or even great President, but the situation with Russia isn't going to end well............ and everyone with a back bone knows it, just like everyone deep in their gut knew that invading Iraq was a terrible idea, of how Obama handled Syria and Iraq.

 

Any agency of "HIS" government?

Exhibit 1 of what I am talking about.

 

FBI/DHS Joint Analysis Report: A Fatally Flawed Effort
The FBI/DHS Joint Analysis Report (JAR) “Grizzly Steppe” was released yesterday as part of the White House’s response to alleged Russian government interference in the 2016 election process. It adds nothing to the call for evidence that the Russian government was responsible for hacking the DNC, the DCCC, the email accounts of Democratic party officials, or for delivering the content of those hacks to Wikileaks.

It merely listed every threat group ever reported on by a commercial cybersecurity company that is suspected of being Russian-made and lumped them under the heading of Russian Intelligence Services (RIS) without providing any supporting evidence that such a connection exists.

A common misconception of “threat group” is that refers to a group of people. It doesn’t. Here’s how ESET describes SEDNIT, one of the names for the threat group known as APT28, Fancy Bear, etc. This definition is found on p.12 of part two “En Route with Sednit: Observing the Comings and Goings”:

As security researchers, what we call “the Sednit group” is merely a set of software and the related network infrastructure, which we can hardly correlate with any specific organization.
Unlike Crowdstrike, ESET doesn’t assign APT28/Fancy Bear/Sednit to a Russian Intelligence Service or anyone else for a very simple reason. Once malware is deployed, it is no longer under the control of the hacker who deployed it or the developer who created it. It can be reverse-engineered, copied, modified, shared and redeployed again and again by anyone. In other words — malware deployed is malware enjoyed!

In fact, the source code for X-Agent, which was used in the DNC, Bundestag, and TV5Monde attacks, was obtained by ESET as part of their investigation!

During our investigations, we were able to retrieve the complete Xagent source code for the Linux operating system. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first time this Xagent source code has been found and documented by security researchers.This source code is a fully working C++ project, which was used by Sednit operators to compile a binary in July 2015 (at least).
If ESET could do it, so can others. It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as Crowdstrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will.

Where’s the Evidence?
If the White House had unclassified evidence that tied officials in the Russian government to the DNC attack, they would have presented it by now. The fact that they didn’t means either that the evidence doesn’t exist or that it is classified.

If it’s classified, an independent commission should review it because this entire assignment of blame against the Russian government is looking more and more like a domestic political operation run by the White House that relied heavily on questionable intelligence generated by a for-profit cybersecurity firm with a vested interest in selling “attribution-as-a-service”.

 

http://www.robertmlee.org/critiques-of-the-dhsfbis-grizzly-steppe-report/

Another longer description of what was released...basically these reports have no new evidence.

 

To you, MojoMan, a Trump supporter, it makes perfect sense to trust a pathological liar, Trump, over a 2 term President with a very high approval rating. It seems that nearly 3,000,000 Americans preferred the political party you just slammed during the recent election. Fascinating.

 

Really? Of course it would be classified.

The fact that Republican Lindsey Graham came out and said that 99 of 100 Senators (who have access to information not available to the public) believe that Russia is the culprit should maybe give some light as to whether or not it is classified information?

Further, Republican Senators already say they intend to hold hearings on the issue.

Not really a ground breaking suggestion by Carr.

 

What?

You mean that the didn't release classified information to the public?

Earth shattering!

 

I don't get why Democrats keep touting the popular vote because all it really says is that they are super popular in California. Another way to look at it is that they lost the popular vote by over a million in the 49 other states. The fact that they are satisfied running up the score in just one state says a lot about how they view things.....and is probably why they lost so many elections over the past 6 years. It's why the American people have said that they don't want that party in control of anything.

 

It shouldn't even be about that, when national security or what is best for Americans are at stake, party affiliation shouldn't be the primary concern and this is one of those times. It is the same reason that the politicians in Washington on the left should have calmed all the calls to overthrow the government if Trump is sworn into office. This thing is bigger than "R" or "D".

 

You are the liar for calling me a "Trump supporter" when you know very well that I am not. And both Obama and Trump are both pathological liars, so your selective attributions do you a disservice here.