1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Donatas gone

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Dec 15, 2016.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,596
    Likes Received:
    38,818
    Actually it is pretty air tight, if what you say is true, the league would not have gotten involved, it would have simply been a cut and dried case.

    And he couldn't go to Brooklyn because the Rockets matched the deal - the League was trying to make it EXACTLY the way it was intended, and mistakes were made on both sides.

    1. DMo's team screwed up by not having their deal all in the principal portion of the contract.
    2. Morey matched the lessor amount in order to force DMo to move his 2nd year guarantee
    3. This forced DMo to be on the Rockets - if he finished the physical.

    This is where it gets nutty.

    4. By the Rockets and DMo tearing up the deal - it violated the spirit of the CBA, and the league stepped in
    5. League forces the letter of the law.
    6. Rockets matched, then rescinded the match making him an UFA
    7. League nullifies the new deal.
    8. And, because they initially matched, Brooklyn was out of the picture.

    There is no conspiracy if you follow the contractual agreements of the CBA as intended....

    The Rockets lost him because they tore up their matching deal - making him an UFA - they could still sign him, but that ship has more than sailed.

    This was 100% the league slapping the wrist of the Rockets and DMO.

    DD
     
    pugsly8422 likes this.
  2. vator

    vator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    6,575
    Likes Received:
    13,925
    You left out the part where it said the Rockets were working with the NBA and Brooklyn to come up with a resolution. The only way Brooklyn would be involved here is if they felt like they still had a shot at getting DMo at the end of the day. Brooklyn was not out of the picture as you put it. They did nothing wrong and if the Rockets were guilty of doing something they shouldn't or couldn't, there is no reason to believe he wouldn't be a Net right now. Stop passing off speculation as fact. You're acting like you have "inside information" and "sources". Eventually the facts may or may not surface, but until they do, speaking in absolutes is foolish.
     
  3. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,092
    Likes Received:
    29,521
    We don't know about what the league and the Rockets were talking. IIRC, Brooklyn's part in the "talk" was not clear. You make it sounds like the three parties came together to work out a resolution. The reports didn't say that. They just said that they were involved in the talking. Some people speculated that the Nets complained to the league when the Rockets and DMo tore up the originally matched contract, which violated the spirit of the RFA.
     
  4. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,665
    Yup, Dmo is gone. Now if we can just get threads about him gone as well :)
     
    RocksMillenium likes this.
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,596
    Likes Received:
    38,818
    Exactly, and the league disallowed the new deal, forcing DMo to be an UFA and not allowing him to go to Brooklyn, all sides had to abide by the letter and spirit of CBA.

    DDT
     
  6. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,374
    Likes Received:
    121,716
    [​IMG]
     
    dmoneybangbang likes this.
  7. vator

    vator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    6,575
    Likes Received:
    13,925
    My exact point is we DON'T really know. Some here act as though they have info others don't have.

    If the new deal was not allowable, why punish Brooklyn though? If the new deal is not allowable shouldn't the old deal be reinstated? Brooklyn had nothing to do with the dea they signed him to being thrown in the garbage.

    Just saying...If the new deal was allowable like pretty much everybody said it was at the time because DMo didn't report and the Rockets flunked him physically, it makes sense that they all would go to the league and see if they would allow him to go back to Brooklyn. They obviously said no.
     
    #747 vator, Dec 29, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2016
    justtxyank likes this.
  8. Pen15clubber

    Pen15clubber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2015
    Messages:
    13,545
    Likes Received:
    16,122
    praise Allah that DD signs all his posts otherwise I would have no idea who wrote it
     
  9. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,881
    Likes Received:
    39,830
    Actually it isn't close to air tight. It is 100% message board speculation. Not one source has said this is what happened, even if we believe it to be the case.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,596
    Likes Received:
    38,818
    It is not hard to figure out. People just don't want to think we got slapped by the league again.

    DD
     
  11. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,881
    Likes Received:
    39,830
    Again, you (or I) believing it is what happened doesn't make it "airtight." There is zero evidence.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,596
    Likes Received:
    38,818
    There is a ton of evidence. People just don't like where it leads.

    DD
     
  13. heypartner

    heypartner Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    63,510
    Likes Received:
    59,001
    Why are we talking about incorrect numbers of $31m base and $37m possible

    The contract base was $33m and upmost value was $39. $2m was unlikely incentives, so DMo was really only arguing over $4m. He screwed himself by holding out for $4m and also screwed himself by failing to get the Nets to make that $4m actual base salary or Principal Terms. He screwed himself for signing that offer sheet. Morey might not even match if that $4m was principle terms

    I guess we need to discuss this for 10 more pages, sigh. There is an NBA dish thread for this thaat DaDakota made
     
    Stormy1234 likes this.
  14. vator

    vator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    6,575
    Likes Received:
    13,925
    What we know is that the Rockets matched and had DMo reported and failed the physical, he would be a Brooklyn Net. What we know is that this contract was trashed and DMo signed a new one that replaced his incentive money and had more team friendly guarantee dates. DMo took a physical and was sent home. Next thing we hear is the Rockets are working with Brooklyn and the NBA for a resolution.

    Obviously that first contract wasn't honored by the NBA because DMo would be a Net today which leads me to believe they honored the second contract and it was recognized as a valid one or else they would have forced the Rockets to either match the original one or let him go to BK. In the scenario we have now, DMo and BK are left empty handed. Why are they being punished if this is supposed to be a punishment for the Rockets?
     
  15. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,015
    Likes Received:
    32,719
    Only Mistake the Rockets made was trying to help DMo out by tearing up the contract

    No good dead goes unpunished

    Rocket River
     
  16. Bravoexo

    Bravoexo Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2016
    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    232
    Let's just look at the end results as the end results.

    D-Mo is now UFA. There you go. No more need to go further than that. He can audition for any other team he wants.
    He can't go sign with Brooklyn, that means the Offer-Match rule is being upheld by the NBA FO. So what else is there to discuss?

    What 'could' have been is irrelevant now. Who to blame? Well, is D-Mo suing anyone? Has he fired his agent? Nope. So everyone was amicable with what happened.
     
  17. Rockets Pride

    Rockets Pride Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,674
    Likes Received:
    443
    Will donate $50 right now to lock all D-Mo threads.
    Will donate $100 to guarantee another is never created
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  18. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,374
    Likes Received:
    121,716
    deserves its own DMo thread
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,596
    Likes Received:
    38,818
    We also know he did not fail the Rockets physical and that when he took it Friday and tried to report to work on Saturday he was sent home....

    Dunno about that - I believe the league and his agent are still talking.

    DD
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,181
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    The league isn't going to slap anyone and not announce that they slapped someone. That makes no sense. In the entire history of how the league behaves - they always announce the penalty whether against a player or a team when someone has acted outside of the rules.

    So it makes absolute zero sense that the league would somehow want to slap the Rockets but keep it hush-hush.
     
    MrButtocks and justtxyank like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now