CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

It sucks, but has worked against both parties. "Political operatives" do nothing but grease and corrode the 4th estate.

Almost a decade later, 40% of Americans still thought that Saddam had clear links to 9/11.

Even recently, people were conflating Hillary's private email server with the DNC leaks, giving the impression that there was clear proof State secrets were hacked or had been hacked from that server.

 

Do you have examples of media pushing these stories? Today tons of mainstream media outlets pushed the 'election hacking' false story.

 

All 3 ****ing agencies lmao. At least the GOP in congress understands the severity of the situation. Their keyboard masturbators on the other hand are some treasonous fools.

 

It took six months for Obama to begin expelling Russian diplomats after he supposedly told Putin to "cut it out". Does it really take six months to expel a few dozen diplomats?

 

Go to to the source. RNC talking point is to conflate the hacked gmail accounts with Hillary's private server in his response to the hackings.



“The only reason we’re talking about some of this is John Podesta and Neera Tanden and others on the left said some things in e-mails that they wished hadn’t come out”.

“If they hadn’t behaved the way they did,” he continued. “Then none of this would have happened.”

“They wrote those e-mails. They’re the one who had a secret server. They’re the ones who didn’t put proper protocols in place…And I’m not disqualifying the second piece of this. But we keep forgetting in this discussion that it was them who had a secret server. It was them who didn’t abide by rules and regulations set by the government and by the State Department to ensure that some of this kind of stuff wouldn’t happen. And that’s been lost in this discussion.”

I'm not going to rehash Bush II: Electric Bugaloo, but during the wars, the media pushed a pro-war agenda and even brought in "impartial experts" directly fed by the pentagon.

When you poison the trough the media feeds upon, you get those skewed poll results.

By election hacking, you mean the story based on one professor's "fears" that led to Jill Stein stealing another undeserved 5 seconds of fame?

Do you have examples among the tons of media outlets that omit the part where the professor said he had no proof?

 

Dunning-Krugger

 

It can if you're not a knee-jerk sociopath.

Why start expelling people before you've gathered all the evidence of who exactly it was that was involved. Frequently there is that long before criminal trials are brought or charges are filed against people. That's pretty normal.

 

Why start accusing Putin before you've gathered all the evidence of who exactly it was that was involved?

 

Maybe they did and you aren't a active CIA intelligence officer that has naunced insider information? Maybe they have assets in Russia? Maybe declassifing evidence will allow the Russian govt. to source the leak?

 

Or maybe Obama was slow to act.

 

Joint Analysis Report:
by NCCIC & FBI
Reference Number: JAR-16-20296
December 29, 2016

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At this point what difference does it make?

 

I don't know, considering you just spent the last 35 pages arguing it wasn't real, maybe you can tell us.

 

*Shrug*
How hard will be to undo any and everything Obama did this month but the new Pres Elect?

Rocket River

 

If it was the RNC instead of the DNC, none at all.

 

Because the evidence showed Russia which is under Putin's leadership was the source.

 

I never argued that it wasn't "real", that Russia didn't hack the DNC.....I'm just not freaking out about it. It in no way affected the election and the only thing that was released was some DNC dirty laundry. It's not like national security was in any way put in danger....you know, what the Democratic party candidate for president used to do on a regular basis while Secretary of State.

That said it was still a computer crime, so if there are some sanctions as a result or whatever, fine but the US better be ready for the same thing to come back at them because it's not like we don't do the same type of things all the time. Russia didn't "hack the election", they didn't "install Trump as the president", and hacking the DNC isn't an "act of war.....and btw the "act of war" rhetoric is as ridiculous and dangerous as anything Trump as ever said. Let's try to be better than that.

 

I agree that it wasn't an act of war. It was an act of espionage though. We have no idea if it had any effect on the election at all. It may have or it may not have. We don't know, so I think it's pointless to talk about that.

I agree that it didn't install Trump as president. But an American president was run out of office for doing less to the DNC at the watergate. It was a big deal then. This is a foreign adversarial nation doing it, so I think it should be at least as big of a stink.

 

Is this report similar to the one Colin Powell presented to the UN that proved Iraq was developing, manufacturing, and hiding WMDs? I'm asking because that one was completely made up by our very dishonest government.

 

The liberals have no qualms about calling out the CIA for lying about the WMD in Iraq report. But in this instance, we are just supposed to trust them, because Obama says so and anyone who disagrees must be a racist or a "homophobe", or something.