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Trump Advisor: Obama signed defense bill to create problems for Trump

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Obama signed defense bill to create problems for Trump
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    “Overall, it appears that the Authorization Act has been adopted by the outgoing Obama administration, which is hastily introducing new sanctions against Russia, to create problems for the incoming Trump administration and complicate its relations on the international stage, as well as to force it to adopt an anti-Russia policy,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in the statement.

    “This policy has brought the current US administration, which believed that Russia would bow to pressure, into a dead end. We hope the new administration will be more sagacious.”

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    The law signed by Obama also contains a provision that sets conditions for the Pentagon to supply man-portable air defense systems (MANPAD) to Syrian rebels. Previous defense bills have been silent on the issue, and it’s long been U.S. policy not to give MANPADs to rebels at all for fear of them falling into terrorists’ hands.

    Under the bill, the Pentagon can supply the weapons to vetted Syrian rebels after reporting to Congress a description of the rebels receiving the weapons, the number and type of the MANPADs being provided, the logistics of providing and resupplying the rebels, the duration of support and the justification for the support.

    Obama had a number of issues with the NDAA, particularly its funding levels and its restrictions on closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. But he signed it anyway because it authorizes vital funding and programs, including efforts “to reassure our European allies,” he said in a statement Friday.

    http://thehill.com
     
  2. Deckard

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    Fascinating. President Obama said he/we would respond at a time of our own choosing. I guess he's getting in a slap at Putin (and Trump, Vladimir's new best friend) by signing a bill he'd normally oppose. It's giving me a warm glow. I may light up the bedroom!
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Nothing to see here but more liberal cheer leaders. Operation Fast and Furious all over again. We know this will turn out well when these MANPAD's show up in ISIS hands after the rest of the world turns their backs on the rebels. Who needs history when you have liberal arrogance.
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

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    Arming terrorists out of spite for an election loss. Wow - new lows in American politics have been reached.
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    LOL. love the way the title of this thread suggests that Trump's adviser is the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman...

    btw, the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman is quite attractive:

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  6. Rocket River

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    But North Carolina though . . . . .

    Rocket River
     
  7. Major

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    Hook, line, and sinker. This was a GOP-driven bill, passed with veto-proof majorities in both the House and Senate. The primary people opposed are Russia - and you guys. It's amusing to see who here is so hyper-partisan than they will run to defend Russian interests over the US, if they think it's an Obama-driven thing.
     
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    When we need Obama to stand up and do something against this ridiculous and dangerous bill he chooses to sign instead? Screw all politicians, they're all egotistical maniacs. Had very little respect left for Obama after he became Bush 2.0 but after this the tank is empty.
     
  9. Cohete Rojo

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    Hook, line, and sinker. Turns out some individuals are capable of independent thought. Not everyone has to ask mommy and daddy for an opinion.

     
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    Obama's foreign policy track record is truly awful.
     
  11. Major

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    If only you were one of them. Just to reiterate since you still seem clueless:

    The support for arming rebels was pushed for and included in a bill by Republicans and with bipartisan support. It has longstanding support, and is a policy both parties have pushed, both in Syria and around the world over many decades - whether you agree with it or not, and whether it's good policy or not. And Republicans did not lose an election. Ergo, "arming terrorists out of spite for an election loss" is a completely false statement and demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge in whatever you're trying to claim.

    You jumped at a made up headline and used it as an opportunity to attack Obama, without knowing any of the facts or even knowing that it was fake. Perhaps you are one of the people that does need to ask others for an opinion before you say anything.
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    I still don't care. I don't want to give guns to people in a country where there are high-rates of people who believe death is the only suitable punishment for apostasy and where takfirism is spreading like a wild-fire. Perhaps the Republicans and Democrats are wrong, too - it's not as though I have never criticized either one before.

    But good luck with that whole "let's arm terrorists" mentality.
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    I dont care who passed the bill or who signed it. Its a bad idea.

    The only thing the US needs to do is secure a small portion of the country to create a safe zone for refugees. Let the Syrian government figure the rest out on their own. We shouldn't be arming religious extremists.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    You have to understand that a lot of people here so blindly support a political party that the idea of disagreeing with something they do is foreign to them. In their minds, non-Democrats have to agree with everything the Republican party does because they'd certainly at least pretend to support anything the Democratic party does......and without a doubt they'd support anything Obama supports.

    The "I don't care who passed the bill or signed it" mentality will be lost on nearly all of our friends to the left. To them that's ALL that matters. Obama signed it, thus it's good......and if it's bad it is only bad because Republicans wrote it.
     
  15. geeimsobored

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    You're right, this is Obama's fault, not the GOP majorities in the House and Senate that wrote and passed this bill.

    I also love the "screw all politicians" but you only mention Obama. It seems to have become a GOP staple to decry all politicians but only name specific Democrats in any criticism.
     
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    two wrongs don't make a right and I've criticized everybody who deserved it.

    and I mentioned Obama because GOP majority did exactly as expected and told by their military industry masters they serve. Obama, standing alone, could have done the right thing and he didn't.
     
  17. durvasa

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    It's funny how you've managed to simultaneously pretend you're being non-partisan while making the generalization that all left-leaning people unconditionally support whatever Obama supports.

    A tell-tale sign of a partisan is one who makes the assumption that anyone who votes the other way must all be the same.
     
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    Interesting to see the thread turn into lecturing from those who started with knee jerk replies.

    If Trump can double down on embarassment, why can't his people do it too?
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    Oh, is that all. Sounds so easy the way you write it.

    But odd I don't recall your outrage when the GOP congress proposed and approved this.
     
  20. durvasa

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    The link in the original post is broken. Here it is:

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/311868-russia-us-defense-bill-creates-problems-for-trump

    Full article:

    Here is another article on the annual defense policy bill that was signed:

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/311725-obama-signs-annual-defense-policy-bill-into-law

     

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