I shouldn't even dignify you with a response here. I've very clearly stated the man is a top 3 player. I believe that. I don't want to trade him. I want him to become as flexible as he used to be in OKC when he was a neophyte looking for minutes and would gladly play off the ball when his coach asked him to. Because if Harden still had that flexibility at this stage of his career, then we could go ahead and get another great playmaker and win several rings right here in Harden's prime. I won't respond to this stupidity again. I've been very clear about how great of a player I think Harden is.
What's stupid is that you just spent pages attacking the Harden's basketball character but yet you think he's great. What's stupid is that you want to win, but you don't think you can win with Harden but you don't want to trade him. What's stupid is that you keep posting despite the fact it's painfully obvious that you know very little about the sport.
It is easy to criticize. That is just a grade above being ignorant. Look no one is saying it's Okay for Harden to turn it over that many times a game, especially when possession counts. If you have to pick bones, it's not just TO, bad defense that contributed to those losses or our fundamental flaws. The missed threes also lead to long rebound and a quick counter. Elite big + good perimeter defense+ threes by the opponent is the winning formula looks like. But, the only stats you have to look at is 23-9, and most of the league picks Harden as the top two MVP candidates. Those guys including coach Nick must be phonies that can't tell the difference between efficiency and Melo-type basketball. Also look we are far adavnced than most of the teams getting there. Can this team be better? Is that even a question? The difference is you beleive that Rockets are preordained to suck because of its playing style the coach and its superstar excel at. The rest of us are enjoying this season and can't wait to see the next phases of this team. You can play basketball game and stats in your head and no one is asking you to watch a team that is not very good.
I'm not interested in MVP. Is that what we're settling for here? Basketball is a team game. The best team wins the ring. Aren't you interested in how we can become the best team on the planet? Or are you satisfied if we have the league MVP on the team? The only stat that matters is the Larry O'Brien stat.
Agree, but sometimes its a process, as an MVP you get better treatment from the league and better officiating, and that helps in winning the trophy A LOT.
It does....... Spoiler if you don't turn the ball over more than 4 times a game on average. Spoiler . Spoiler You know that's right.
League MVP has almost always gone to a player on a team seeded 1 or 2, if I'm not mistaken. Being a top 2 seed is a hell of a start in winning it all.
So having the MVP gives a team around a 30% chance of winning a championship?????? Less? What are the odds of a team winning a championship when their best player averages over 4 turnovers a game? What are the odds of a team winning championship when their best player is also their primary distributor and is averaging over 4 turnovers a game?
For you and posters like dwert: http://www.fanragsports.com/nba/james-harden-russell-westbrook-dont-turnover-problem/ Conclusion in the statistical article: Anyone bellyaching about their turnovers is a hater grasping at straws. There are valid criticisms of both men (as there are of everyone), but Harden’s and Westbrook’s turnovers are a product of their enormous value to their respective teams, not a detriment to it.
Huh? D'Antoni should have a talk with Harden to thank him for resuscitating his career! Pringles was shamed out of both LA and NY and left to die on the shores of Philadelphia. Remember? If anybody thinks that he's gonna rock this yacht please think again. It ain't happening. He has at least a few more years to ride this "contender" thing before his job is threatened by any championship talk. There are few better coaching jobs in the NBA than the Houston Rockets and he ain't jeopardizing his relationship with that or a generational talent behind a few turnovers and a little hero ball. Hardin has grown leaps and bounds under D'Antoni, let's trust the process for a while longer before you guys start clamoring for your overly ambitious cries for perfection. Are we the best team in the league? Probably not. Can we beat the best teams in the league? Absolutely.
LOL. Pure garbage written by an amateur. It's not even in the context of championship-winning basketball. Doesn't address championship-winning teams at all. You and Kelly need to study championship team history. Examine their turnover rates, turnovers per 100 possessions, per game, and examine the turnovers of their primary ball handlers, their spot up guys, and their interior guys. There's a certain minimum data set that championship teams have maintained. For us to fit into that data set with our turnovers we've got to shoot somewhere around 48% as a team from the three point line on the huge volume of threes we fire up. Could that happen? Yeah it could I suppose. But it ain't. It's going to be a lot easier and sensible to get our data into championship level by decreasing turnovers. That article is utter garbage in terms of championship-level basketball team play.
This is pretty much it. Turning the ball over while shooting so poorly does make Harden's game unwatchable sometimes. He's more and more looking like Westbrook than Westbrook himself lately, this issue needs to be addressed.
If Harden doesnt win an MVP before he is retired it will be one of the biggest crimes in basketball history
As Bill said tonight about how some young fans don't realise how lucky they are to have Harden and to enjoy it for as long as possible. Some of you guys deserve no nice things.
