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Carrie Fisher in critical condition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by justtxyank, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    I'm curious, what type of patients have you done CPR on for that long have survived (age and condition?) ? I'm with the other fellow...25 mins of compressions with the patient walking away sounds like a rare outlier.
     
  2. CCorn

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    Why has this thread turned into a CPR credentials thread?
     
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  3. heypartner

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    lulz. "I'm with the other fellow and am going to ignore @LosPollosHermanos obvious expertise in the subject and pull out the 'pics or it didn't happen' ace card for internet proof."

    I knew it would the moment OP incorrectly said "It's a myth that CPR is very effective at all"

    btw: any update on her condition. And I'm sure what happens to her case will become the final say, landmark case on the subject for all future cases.
     
  4. Haymitch

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    I took a class on infant CPR. What are your credentials?
     
  5. RedRedemption

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    I saw someone give CPR in a movie once.

    It only works if you give them a tearful kiss to revive them back to life.
     
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    Coincidence. My BLS CPR card expires this month. ****! I need it to start at my new location. Thanks for the reminder guys.
     
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    I took a CPR class about a decade ago - I'll answer any questions you have.
     
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    I've seen the sandlot
     
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    i watched teh pr0nz that started with cpr
     
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    I stayed at a holiday inn last night.
     
  12. Brando2101

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    If they induced a hypothermic coma then they'll wait a day or so to bring her out of it. Her physical signs will tell a lot once she warms up and they ease up on the sedation. There is a condition where a person will start to shake which is an extremely extremely bad sign but the neurologists will still come in and perform a variety of tests. However, they can never be completely conclusive which gets annoying. They just become pretty sure of things. The ICU doctors are usually pretty frank on the reality of the situation so it really comes down to the family and the extent of brain damage. Cardiac Arrest in a hospital or even an ambulance is one thing. In this kind of uncontrolled environment? How much time passed between when someone noticed she wasn't breathing and when they had someone start CPR? I'm not a medical expert at all. I'm just speaking to my own experiences dealing with this kind of situation. Just make sure to have realistic expectations and hopes.
     
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  13. heypartner

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    Just learned something from my nephew in Residency (with whom I just saw Rogue One) about using defibrillators, which has nothing to do with this case, but it's interesting wrt how movies and TV portray shocking patients. They will hook up the defibs ECG leads to get a reading of the heart beat, but will only use the paddles to shock the patient when 1 of 2 arrhythmic readings exist....never when the heart has flat-lined, as it doesn't work then.

    So he says when you see in TV and movies the doctors shock someone from a flat-line reading, it is just for dramatic effect.

    He also said that you likely are not doing CPR correctly (for as long as Carrie had it done) if you don't break some ribs. ouch.
     
  14. Brando2101

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    Here is a good article about the impact TV has on public conceptions of these practices: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...cpr-lifesaving-stats/index.html?client=safari

    "So when did the misconception about the effectiveness of CPR begin? Some researchers argue that television created the myth. Between 1994 and 1995, researchers from Duke Universitywatched 97 episodes of "ER," "Chicago Hope" and "Rescue 911," taking note of when CPR was administered during each show.

    In these dramas, 75% of patients survived immediate cardiac arrest, and two-thirds were discharged from the hospital with full brain function, a stark contrast to the much smaller percentage found by medical studies."
     
  15. Nick

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    there's really also no more paddles... they place sticky pad leads that connect to the AED. Again,hand-held paddles more for effect.
     
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    Yeah, all the modern defibs do the work for you now. They read the condition of how the heart is beating and administer the appropriate shocks through sticky nodes with the correct voltage and timing.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    I saw all 8 seasons of House.

    Victory...
     
  18. heypartner

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    Do they have a voice that says "Clear!"
     
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    I wasn't curious before but now I am.


    Robot voice or not?
     
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    Deb Reynolds looks well for her age.
     

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