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Truck runs through crowd in Berlin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    How about focusing on this jerk's victims and their dreams instead? I'm sure Hitler had hopes and dreams at some point. Do you want to "humanize" those as well?
     
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  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Because they aren't the ones stealing trucks and driving through crowds. Of course Hitler had hopes and dreams, like every other human being , and if I was writing a paper about who Hitler was and why he did the things he did then I would humanize him in order to gain his insights.

    I am not a soldier so I don't need to operate as someone who will hesitate pulling the trigger by humanizing a combatant.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    On some level I understand it, but I just don't see how it matters. So I'm right there with you, but in order to avoid Godwin's law and to give a bit more contemporary example, I think the better example is "I'm sure Dylan Roof had "hopes and dreams" too, but given that he abandoned those hopes and dreams to become a terrorist *******, those "hopes and dreams" mean nothing."

    Once someone decides to abandon their "hopes and dreams" in order to become a terrorist *******, nothing they ever cared about matters anymore. At that point, they become an animal that needs to be put down. The only reason it's important to find out their influences and "reasons" they did what they did is so that you can use that to find others who might consider doing the same before they act and stop them.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Yes, better example. But it is very obvious and noticeable that leftists always come up with attempts to "humanize" Islamist terrorists, when they would never think of such a thing for equally despicable white supremacist terrorists.
     
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  5. dmoneybangbang

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    You assume too much and fall into the generalization trap.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    It's not an assumption, it's an observation, kid.
     
  7. Dei

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    But you and the media do not. When was there a piece about Hitler that showed him in a humazing light? There are protected groups and people who need to be kept diametrically evil for political purposes. It's time to stop pretending the media is impartial whatsoever.
     
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  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Hitler happened awhile ago, I'd imagine the many biographies about his life reveal his human side before he turned into the historical, genocidal figure.

    So what's your the issue with that particular AP story then? It doesn't provide your slant? Seems the article was providing the attacker's past and his journey There are other articles that describe other aspects if you care to look.
     
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    There have been plenty of looks into Hitler the person that ultimately became Hitler the monster.
     
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    He's still prominent now and all the material about him is with regards to the Holocaust. The media doesn't give him and other groups like whites the same treatment as their favored groups.

    Give.
     
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    Go read any of the biographies on Hitler.
     
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    Where the **** did this Hitler biography discussion come from
     
  13. dmoneybangbang

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    Dei was unhappy that one particular AP article about the Berlin driver didn't dehumanize him which somehow led to Hitler.
     
  14. Dei

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    Actually, it was because you didn't pick up on how that article was running a double standard that someone else had to give you an analogy using Hitler.
     
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    There has been yet another one. How many people are going to have to die before we get some common sense lorry laws?

     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    I lived exactly there. It's creepy. Barcelona, Berlin, London, Muenster. All of those happened very close to the places I lived at in these cities.
     
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    Damn man, stay safe.

    Do you think the backlash from these kinds of things will ever get bad enough to unseat Merkel?
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks. Unfortunately not, no.
     
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    It is atm said that the perpetrator was born in Germany (1969), no migrant and mentally ill, so please don't drag this to refugee or Islam politics befor the situation is clear.
     
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    We'll see, but given that they haven't revealed the man's name or description along with the fact that this attack mimics multiple similar attacks leads me to believe that his motives are similar. If that ends up wrong, so be it, but at this point it's foolish to think that this wasn't yet another Islamic terror attack.

    When something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not wrong to believe it to be a duck until proven otherwise.
     

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