I can respect that. I know faried slacks on defense especially considering his early rep. Im just note sold on trezl ever becoming much more than he already is. Which is a high energy spark off the bench near suited to play the 5 but seriously undersized for the position. @RocketsTerps I don't see him ever reaching that level. Amare was a savage in his prime. I love potential also but by law of percentages most players never reach it and never get where we think and typically level off into role players at best. That's what I see in trezl. A solid bench energy guy. I'd love to be proved wrong thing, especially if we keep him. But IMO he's no deal breaker in acquiring Tyson
Noel fits the rim protection need much better than Chandler, plus he still has upside to become 2nd superstar. The GM gossip is even better because it reduces his price. Chemistry issues are also more likely with Chandler because he would displace Capela in starting 5, Noel could be eased in to number 1 back up role and let him earn more time. This is also a more vet team with clearly established hierarchy and roles which would be exactly the structure to get best out of Noel. And his ability to run and jump all day would fit seamlessly into what we need from 5 spot. Tyson Chandler would be a filler, like Nene, Nerlens Noel would be the future.
Noel is not splitting time in Philly, more like he's getting scraps. Philly has no role or vision for him at all. The frustration is completely natural especially for a player taken at top of draft with still untapped potential. Morey needs to jump on this opportunity, you all know how much he loves to buy low on top 5 drafted players.
Yeah, I thought of that when I saw the interview with Nerlens. The Sixers would not put out a negative piece of missed or being late to meetings while sitting out that first year. His agent wouldn't. Those looking to lower his price tag and swoop in seems most likely. Who would know about missed meetings? Former teammates I guess. May have been a maturity issue then....how about now? I can't slight him for wanting to get more minutes now as he is a RFA this summer & wants to present decent numbers. But, will approx 24 mins a game be ok with him? Each player has some pros & cons. Tyson can body up against the Drummonds/Cousins/Brook Lopez/Adams/D12's/DJordan/Bogut/Gasol ects of this world with less pace......Noel is thin like Capela; but can block shots & Rox can pick up the pace. Both Noel/Tyson can rebound & PnR. I'm sure the Rox have a price in mind not to exceed on either. I could envision a Capela/Noel twin towers time for brief stints providing great rim protection and fantastic pace-rebounding.
Don't think I would play them together but those who are so low on Noel have either forgotten his skill set or were ignorant of them to begin with. Noel is better passer than Chandler, better facing basket, better rebounder, better shot blocker, better at steals and is an excellent perimeter defender who can switch off and guard any position. Chandler has also logged 15 seasons and his career numbers are down across the board by a lot this season. His arrow is clearly pointing down while Nerlens Noel has played a little more than 2 seasons and his arrow is pointing way up. As for the cancer concerns, I notice no one is casting aspersions on Embiid's game or character when he also voiced his frustrations about Sixers recent lineup changes. Philly is simply toxic right now for entire organization, not just the players.
That's fair enough, in fact it's not that i expect him to be that much better than what he is today, but in the end i'd say keep him for another year to see if/how he improves and than make a decision.
@D-rock Me personally I didn't have a problem with Noel wanting more minutes. He has more to lose than Embiid, Saric, Okafor, Simmons because they have longer term contracts. I throw Simmons in there because Philly fans see him as a PF. Iyasova(UFA) & Noel (RFA) are FA's at season's end. I didn't mind D12 getting a few post ups last season (so he could get his #'s) as long as he gave us PnR. NBA.com/Stats showed a frequency of 9% x D12 as roll man in PnR. That's unacceptable as good as he is/was at PnR. He would have earned a bigger contract if he had rolled (PnR) with it. I'm not one for putting up with meetings being missed or skipped by players or employees. Reports have come out that Dez Bryant has missed like 100 meetings over his career. I would have moved Dez, but I'm not a Cowboys fan. I don't feel they are worth the distractions. As talented as they may be....some players can be a powder keg ready to go off. Hopefully Nerlens is not an issue for any team that brings him in.
I don't want to comment on the thread about "moving Capela for Noel". It probably should be at this location. I personally would not move Capela for Nerlens Noel. Rockets end up with a carbon copy that doesn't improve the team much as far as 48 min rim protection. Noel has had too many injuries to count on full-time.
Works salary wise, just not sure if it's enough for PHI: HOU gets: Korver ATL gets: Noel PHI gets: Onuaku, KJ, picks?
Fascination with Korver is confusing. Korver lacks upside and there are cheaper options if just want to add another 3 point shooter. Stauskas or Hezonja are younger, cheaper, more upside.
Kyle is shooting 42% from 3, Hezonja is shooting 19% from 3, and stauskas is a career 33% shooter from 3. Your interest with Sauce Castillo and Hezonja is more confusing. I'm not saying Korver is a perfect fit...but how is the interest with one of the league's historically best 3pt shooters fascinating? Did you miss the fact that we attempted over 60 3s last game? Did you know that MDA is our coach? Korver would be a nice fit in Houston, regardless of upside or the fact that he is a FA after this year.
Noel is expensive and has a possibility to disturb locker room. Tyson is a vet who has stated he just wants to win. He's most likely willing to come in as a backup and mentor. Noel wants to start and get paid this off season. Noel is not who I want. Besides the chemistry concern and ability to accept his role, I'm also concerned about his upcoming contract. I'm also concerned if he outperforms capela does that hinder him because it would be clear competition. Not only that, noel is skinnier then capela. He's NOT helping us against the bigger bits in the leafue. He's redundant. As for korver. Another absolute veteran I would love to have off the bench. Yes, he's declining and not what he was. But he's an elite sniper from deep and would be a great addition to our bench. Quit focusing on potential. Since Beverley's return we are top 5 in offensive rating and defensive rating. That is absolutely contender status. If this keeps up.much longer we need to concentrate on winning NOW.!! We only have 2 years before harden is a free agent to be. We have to be contending or risk losing him. Projects we "hope" fill potential is not what we need. We are all in with this roster. @awc713 @D-rock @Jatman20 @Vivi
Just a neutral passerby.....I like Korver & steakhouse. They both have contracts less than $5 mil & both would get open looks in our system. Go Rockets!
@BigMaloe i would love to have Chandler here, great fit for Harden and to help Clint develop (he would also probably be ok to sign for cheap once this contract ends so it would be even better for us having him ala Mutombo in 2008/09), i'm just scared by his current contract since it would put us out of any race for free agent...i know you don't like this but eh, the chance to sign an all star caliber player is always interesting
Noel is expensive??? His contract is much less than Brewers THIS season, worry about tomorrow when it comes. Noel is skinny??? Noel COULD be locker room problem? These are your big issues?? SMH. Good thing Morey is not as scared of his shadow as some fans. Even as skinny as Noel is right now, he's still a better defender than any big on Rockets roster. He has DPOY ability. You worry about Noel's contract, but not Korver's which is much larger, inordinate even for a guy who will be coming off the bench. Smells personal to me.
I like your passion towards the matter BigMaloe. I'm probably in the same vicinity; just not with the same urgency. Harden has player option in 2019/20; which gives Rox the remainder of this season followed by 17/18 & 18/19. I would like to add player(s) to the depth of this team to reinforce areas of concern imo. Center & wing position. My expendable players are KJ, Chinanu, Brewer, Ennis. Everyone else is worth keeping. KJ: because he won't get playing time needed to improve. Chinanu: is probably Mark Bryant, tops. Brewer: can be a vet presence for young team. Tyler Ennis: upcoming FA w/Payton II waiting in the weeds. I'm willing to send 1st rd & 2nd picks for package deals. I'm not willing to give 1st rd picks for just Rudy Gay or just Nerlens Noel. Just my preference.
A line is forming of teams needing a center of sorts. Blazers: Festus/ Cavs: Bird-man. I hope the Rockets are not in the same position. Keeping fingers crossed on Capela. I place posts on backups.......in case of possible injury or injuries.
I said his future contract as he is a pending restricted free agent and is looking at a ma contact. As a player who hasn't played up to his" potential" yet. Next year he costs 25m+ per. Yes he would be out best defender (so would Tyson). And yes he's skinny, skinnier than capela. Still he's good defensively but has the same problem as capela against bigger centers. Kat murdered us tonight for example. And yes, chemistry concerns. He has requested a trade multiple times and even thru the media. He's pouting because he wants to start and get paid this summer not to mention it creates s competition with capela possibly stunting his growth.
