CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

no. he specifically accused trump of asking the Russians to hack Hillary.

'He called on Russia to hack his opponent'

 

And there isn't literal video evidence of Trump doing exactly that?

 

Well, we can't all be condescending and smug ass holes. Dude figured he would let others carry that torch. Thank you for your services and stuff, man.

 

My post was /s regarding rigged but your post is trash. if the Russians hacked and found a clean, fair, democratic DNC would folks still be saying Russians rigged or influenced the election. I don't think so. so all of this is just more excuses from libs because they refuse to face the truth. Many people are tired of their ****.

 

You aren't making sense. The two things aren't mutually exclusive. The DNC did not act fairly and the Russians tried to subvert and change the democratic process of the United States election. They are BOTH TRUE. You only seem to care about one of the things.

Even if some people ignored the DNC not acting within their set guidelines, that doesn't change what the Russians did, and that what they did was wrong and a threat to the United States.

 

You do realize that it's just weird to say that exposing corruption and collusion to manipulate the democratic process of the US election is somehow subversive and a "threat to the United States".....I mean right?

 

Not any weirder than people saying a foreign govt. hacking computers, stealing information, and releasing it selectively about one candidate only while also spreading fake news stories targeting that same candidate in an effort to sway the election for the other govt. isn't a serious offense.

 

It's no more serious an offense than what they blew the whistle on. You know, the DNC acting to subvert the democratic process both in the primary and in the general election. Really when you think about it, the computer crime is actually less of a big deal. I highly doubt that people would be up in arms if GM got hacked by the Russians and plans to build cars that they know are unsafe were revealed to the public. The crime would be no different, but when you mess with a Democrat partisan's chosen political party, you mess with their religion. That's why so many Democrats are seemingly ready for jihad over the Russian hack.

 

Dude, EVERY country hacks each other every damn day!! Wikileaks leaks crap about everyone and has a long track record to prove that.

The only reason people care now is that 1) Popular vote lost, 2) most media leans left so this "news" is in the news cycle, and 3) the losers are being the biggest whiny sore losers of all time. She couldn't beat The Apprentice guy LOL!!! That says more about her and her family than it does about anyone else in the world. Look in the mirror, she is a lying, cheating, manipulating, private/public two face (her words), scumbag and millions of people were tired of the bullshit. The Donald was simply the beneficiary of those feelings towards her. He won because of HER not because of HIM or anybody else.

If the Dems would fix themselves and serve the people better, instead of chasing ghosts to blame, they could fix it real quick. But they refuse to look within and fix the problems instead crying and blaming everyone else. Let's go through the list of excuses shall we. First it was Bernie and his supports, then wikileaks and Assange, the russian government, FBI, James Comey himself, Fake News, hey let's go back to russian hackers, scrap that it was Putin himself, now it's electoral college, etc... I'm sure I missed something.

Bottom line after raising and spending over 1.2 BILLION dollars on her campaign, SHE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE!!!

Disclaimer, I was not and still not a Trump supporter or a Repubtard although his early start as POTUS-elect has me slightly thinking positive. His recent trillion dollar tech leadership meeting really has me intrigued.

 

The CIA has narrowed the hack down to these 2 well known heinous Russians.... Seems they have an axe to grind going back to a long running moose and squirrel feud. Word on the street says they were worried about Bill being back in the oval office with his obsession with never having enough squirrel around.

 

Dear Mr. Dude:

I will just put it this way.

I would FAR rather live in Western Europe than China or Mexico. People in Western Europe are treated far better than 90% of the world. They should be held up as an example, not **** on by a third world hell hole like Russia. Western Europe relies on the USA quite a bit, but we also rely on them as they (along with Canada) are really close to the only sanity in this ****** up world.

Greetings & Salutations

Mstr. Nook

 

Think of it this way, if the US hacked non government Russian computers and uncovered a smoking gun when it came to Putin admitting to being a dictator ruling via rigged elections and we had Wikileaks release that information, should we look at ourselves as the bad guy for doing so? If not, it's kind of hard to get worked up about what Russia did. Was it dickish? Absolutley. Was it illegal? Unquestionably. Are they "bad guys" for exposing corruption and collusion? Meh, not really.

 

Dude loves the European way of life, he just doesn't like being excluded from it while at the same time having to pay bills for them.

Anyway, I posted that in the wrong thread I think. It was late and I was fairly high at the time. I leave you guys to your secret CIA thread and ****.

Cheers

 

Nobody rigged the election, eh?

DNC was going to ensure Bernie was not going to be picked over Hillary. Ok you're right, no rigging there since the opportunity didn't present itself.

DNC colludes with the media. To may toe. Ta mah toe. Call it what you want. If the RNC did it, it would be considered rigging.

Oh did we forget the Detroit recount already? Right, that wasnt rigged. Those damn recount machines kept getting stuck ... in 37% of the precincts. Hell, one got stuck 256 times out of 50. Perhaps we should just call that fraud... you know, thats only happened 32 times out of a billion?

 

Both can be true. DNC rigging the game to ensure Hillary beat Bernie is wrong. Foreign interference in U.S. Election to favor one candidate/party or in general to try to undermine the system is wrong.

If you want to say that releasing DNC emails was justified due to what was made public Then do you support a pardon for Snowden?

I'd want to see what the RNC and Steve Bannon (or whoever is similar to Podesta) thought of Trump and other things privately in their emails before I could conclude ONLY one side was rigging or collaborating with the media. But really I don't care to see those private emails since I already assumed they're all politicians and do shady things in private.

 

It's not the same situation at all, with Snowden it was classified information stolen from government computers. That's A LOT more serious.

Now I get how that can sound like a cop out, so I'll pretend for the sake of conversation that what Snowden did and hacking the DNC are somehow comparable. With that assumption, I'd say that if they found out who did the Russian hacks, they should seek to arrest them just like Snowden.....and just like Snowden, they won't be able to because I'm sure that person will seek asylum in Russia too.

 

Good lord. You are not on a good trip, dude.

 

Thank you. The White House is clearly (and accurately) saying that Trump knew about Russia doing this, benefited from it in some form and even urged Russia to hack Hillary's emails. Meanwhile, Trump has already claimed that the CIA findings are just a Democratic ploy to undermine him despite there being a bipartisan call for an investigation into it. It's clear which side is just making up conspiracies out of thin air.

 

The DNC had emails discussing things but there was no rigging. It's shameful what they did to Bernie and as a Bernie voter I was not happy with the DNC's decision not to share data with him early on. But that's not why he lost.

As for the Detroit recount and the problems with the machines, that's exactly why recounts are important - to expose these issues. You cynical right-winger think the only motivation is to get Clinton elected. But many of us on the "left" aren't about who wins or not but rather the process. For instance, I don't like the campaign targeting electors. I'm not against it because it's not illegal, but I feel that energy could be better spent improving voter turnout instead.

Your claim of fraud is unsubstantiated and pure speculation - it's a reckless approach that shows you are not interested in genuinely debating with people you disagree with but rather you are just into screaming your beliefs at people loud enough so you don't hear anything else.

That's why you are Space Cadet.