CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

Except that I agree that there was lax security, and hopefully it will get fixed. But lax security doesn't excuse Russia's hacking or interference. I haven't seen anyone trying to excuse lax security. But bringing up lax security doesn't change the sad fact that people are trying to excuse Russia's interference.

There could be a million reasons why Clinton lost. We don't even know that the Russian interference would have changed that. Even if not one vote was changed because of the hacks, propaganda stories and any other Russian meddling, it doesn't excuse what happened.

And again hypocrisy is an issue where Americans can disagree and discuss. But foreign interference is a much bigger issue, and it's sad that you and others can't seem to put America first, and keep defending Russia.

 

The easiest way for us to prevent foreign actors from interfering in our elections by bringing corruption to light is by eliminating that corruption.

 

This is just another ploy by SORE Losers.

First it was the re-count which added to Trump's lead and showed only irregularities in the highly Democrat city of Detroit!

So that didn't work and not it's the Russians did it!

Back your president and shut up.

 

Yes, of course.

Yes also, until evidence can be provided from said investigation this is a non-story. Right now, for you, CIA or anyone from MSM to tell me that Russia hacked us to try and influence the election in favor of Trump, prior to presenting evidence from a full investigation, is simply idiotic.

CIA should shut their yapper because even the FBI aren't accepting their assessment. And MSM running with this story while neglecting to report the fact that there is no evidence and no agreement in the intelligence community is called fear-mongering. On a smaller scale they are trying to influence the gullible public opinion, on a larger scale they are trying to incite direct action, both of which is despicable after a recently completed democratic election.

 

I disagree with this, no one has to back Trump, in fact, if you are a Democrat, you should be working to take back the house and Senate in the midterms already. Now if you just said "stop being whiny b****es about losing", I'd support that. No one benefits from blaming everything on the Russians, or "fake news", or any other half baked nonsense. Hillary lost because she is an awful person and a worse candidate who ran a terrible campaign. Learn the lesson and move on.

 

Based on what evidence? We have the intel reports. We know that the Russians did this. It isn't a ploy by anyone. Backing the president against foreign intervention should be a given. For some reason you aren't willing to do that and are making excuses for the foreign govt. that is casting doubt on the democracy that elected the candidate you supported.

 

I don't think anyone is excusing it, just saying the onus is one us to stop it, not on them to stop hacking. This would be like someone who doesn't lock their door saying criminals should stop stealing, rather than discussing better security for themselves. Yes, criminals should stealing, but that's a fairly fatalistic stance to take.

 

They aren't "casting doubt on the democracy" they just exposed corruption in the DNC and collusion between the DNC and the media. That's not "casting doubt" on anyone but the DNC, MSNBC, and CNN.....I understand that to some on the left, those are holy institutions, but they really aren't.

 

Again, I haven't been shy in my criticism of the DNC. There is room for doubt. Just like we don't know that the Russian interference changed the results of the election it is possible that it could have. It was a close election. We just don't know, and I'm not sure how we can. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. Trust me if the third party candidate I voted for won, I wouldn't want there to be any doubt. That person lost, and I still don't want there to be any doubt.

 

MSM, and Fox news, and Trump (yea i include him) absolutely. I don't count. But CIA? CIA assessment of Russia trying to influence the election to one candidate is a non-story? Sorry, absolutely not. I don't know why you dismiss the CIA as if they don't know what they are doing or their assessments isn't evidences based. You want to explain yourself?

The FBI agreed with the CIA that Russia were involved. From the FBI point of view, I read that they believe there is not enough evidences to said Russia swayed the election to Trump. Differences in FBI and CIA isn't that uncommon, given that one focuses on protection and persecution while the other doesn't get involved in persecution, but to provide intel to assist President and senior govn policymakers on national security decisions.

 

Real white American people wanted Trump anyway. Screw Russians and CIA, who are the professional liar amongst the greatest contry of liars.

 

God bless Trump's appointments, those brave lightbringers.

 

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Just you simply stating that the Russian interference could have cost Hillary the election is enough to say you're not critical of the DNC. The DNC colluding with the media was pretty far down on Hillary's flaws.

She lost MI, WI and Penn. Why? It certainly wasn't the Russians. It was because she had no plans for the economy and her agenda's were going to take jobs away from these people. None of this had to do with Russia. None of this had to do with the DNC sandbagging Bernie. None of this had to do with the DNC feeding the elitest in the media questions to be asked.

If you want to criticize Russia for interfere with the DNC (because we know you'd have no problem if it was the RNC), then go right ahead. But dont allude Hillary lost because of Russia.

 

I didn't vote for Trump, didn't want Trump to win, and there is still no doubt. Honestly, that's why those on the left are doing all they can to make this as big a story as possible, they are trying to make as many people as possible to think that the reason they lost was due to Russia rather than the democrats running an awful candidate that the American people simply rejected.

In reality, there's no doubt, in the battle of the 2 worst presidential candidates in modern history the people chose Trump.

 

Instead of taking an obvious incorrect view, you can just refer back to his previous posts concerning the DNC. I also mentioned a few times how stupid they were and that they were corrupted. FB made similar statements from what I recall. Go ahead and try to correct your assumption.

But again this thread isn't about the DNC or Clinton. That has been repeated so many times and it looks like you aren't capable of letting them go.

 

So......they want the House of Representatives to pick Trump instead? That's just weird asking people to not do their job so that someone else can do the exact same thing.

 

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