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Rockets in talk with league about DMO

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by No Chance, Dec 12, 2016.

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    There's only one sure way to leave your lover. Sign the damn QO and tough it out for a year.
     
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    The proper label would be Outsider. Total Outsider.
     
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    Big thanks for this summary of Codman's posts. Too many private discussions between the lines, and prefer not to wade through those. So DMo will be back and a trade wind is blowing. Our team chemistry is so good now, just can't see a trade of anyone in the rotation. How long before DMo contract is settled and changes his twitter back?
     
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    Can y'all just let Codman do his thing and stop burying his posts with your personal back and forth b****ing

    kthxbhai
     
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    That's just how RFA works. Teams will back away knowing the player's current team is going to match, unless they want to overpay.

    And like you said other teams handle RFA in the same way. I don't need no insider info to know that's what happened.

    So how exactly are Rox and Morey playing dirty again?
     
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    That's why you take the QO. In another season the player is an unrestricted free agent. Rockets learned their lesson with Chandler Parsons, and they lost a valuable player for nothing. Negotiating in good faith when there is a system, which the players association agreed to in order to appease owners regarding the exorbitant contracts even role players are making in free agency.

    Morey again showed his humanity by reworking the Nets deal, even though he didn't have to do that.
     
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    True, but to be fair, Morey re-worked that deal to maximize his asset advantage. Those July 15th NG dates.
     
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    False - Morey didn't want that March 1st 2nd year guarantee nor that Dmo would have a year and a half of no trade hold....it was not out of his humanity, it was out of his desire for flexibility.

    DD
     
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    You would not do that if you were DMo. Too much risk of injury AND getting buried on the bench to devalue you on your next contract. You obviously don't understand this situation from the players side.
     
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    Dmo's math skills are lacking, then, if he's truly healthy and has worked on his game.

    The QO gives him $4.4M this year plus whatever he gets as an UFA in the summer. If he's healthy, that would be pretty substantial even at 10 minutes a game to show his stuff.

    The Nets offer he signed only guaranteed him $5M. That's it. He sacrificed the flexability of unrestricted free agency in a boom summer for FAs for about half a million bucks.

    I'm not sure which, but either DMo or BJ is mighty shortsighted.

    If he's actually questioning his ability to remain healthy enough to play, then their actions over the last few months make perfect sense. Get as much as you can for this season and don't worry about future years.
     
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    To be fair, DD's beef is with the ownership and FO, not "the team." Some of you needs to separate Morey and Les from the concept of "the team" as much as DD needs to separate any of his pet players from the concept of "the team."

    A lot of us old-timers dislike Les Alexander because of how he has treated our head coaches. Many posters criticize Morey because they don't like his style of GM-ing. Because Morey is the top dog of the FO, "multiple aspects" of the team can trace back to him. So it should not be surprising if a poster does not like the GM, he does not like multiple aspects of the team. You don't have to agree with all these. But questioning someone's loyalty to the team just because he dislike the owner or the GM is indeed silly.
     
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    I should hope the Pistons were not sharing DMo's medical information with every Tom Dick & Harry that called them. It should be private. And, the Pistons would be surrendering a small competitive advantage by sharing and get nothing for it. What the Pistons should do when teams call is say, "No, DMo is in perfect health! We only failed him on the physical as part of a wink-wink deal with Morey and we'll get a good trade out of him later when the heat dies down. But, you should totally give DMo a really good offer. He's going to be a great player with no health problems at all." Then either Houston or some other competitor ends up with an albatross contract on their books, making it that much easier for the Pistons to rise to the top of the pack.
     
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    The FO, specifically the owner, is the biggest part of team and will be there long after the players come and go. My extreme annoyance is that DD will always side with a player over the team when the team will always be ABOVE the player. If you are a fan of the team, how about acting like it for once. Even Tinman keeps his frustration with ownership to himself usually whereas DD spams the board with it.
     
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    In truth, D-Mo is the MOST ROCKET of ANYONE on the team, besides Harden. He's been in Houston LONGER than anyone else on the roster - even Harden since D-Mo was in training camp BEFORE Harden was picked up. (And actually one of the few players Rockets kept past their rookie contracts.) D-Mo has been a name in the fans mind for a while, its why there's so much talk on him.

    This situation is aggravating, yes. And shows a bad side of people. Yes there's a new coach, new system new way and D-Mo still has lot to prove.

    Though I think it's a bit disingenuous to say the newer players can just pull "rank", moving out the "old". D-Wade and Rondo cant just go to Chicago and say "Taj Gibson AINT one of US!" (They CAN so they stay focused not distracted, but tenure does count for SOMETHING I'd think).
     
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    The deal he finally agreed to left him exposed to injury risk and benching risk just as much as signing a 1 yr qualifying offer did.

    With the qualifying offer, if he gets hurt this year, and he enters 2017 FA as damaged goods.
    With his current deal, if he gets hurt this year, his contract is voided, and he enters 2017 FA as damaged goods.

    With the qualifying offer, if he can't crack the rotation, and he enters 2017 FA after being devalued.
    With his current deal, if he can't crack the rotation, his contract gets voided, or he gets traded this summer to a team who wants to void his contract for cap space, and he enters 2017 FA after being devalued.

    After all is said and done, all DMo accomplished by not signing the qualifying offer was to get roughly $4M extra guaranteed this year in exchange for giving the Rockets ALL of his upside during his prime years. He doesn't play up to his salary? 3 years of being a potential expiring contract trade chip with the ability to waive him for cap space any summer. He turns out to be healthy and comes even remotely close to playing to his potential? Rockets have a guy on a 4 year deal that pays peanuts for a starting caliber C or PF in today's NBA.
     
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    Plenty of fans hate their team's owner, GM, or coach, but LOVE their team. Ask any Clippers fan. Ask the old Oilers fans. Stop equating management with "the team." That's not how sports fandom works. In fact, fans tend to identify with the players much more than the management. Owners and GMs don't play for the fans on the court or on the field. Owners are perceived to be businessmen using "the team" to make money out of the fans.
     

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