You understand that Michigan and Tennessee have only had one in the last 65+ years? And OSU and LSU have only had one more than that in the same time frame? Not trying to look at other programs and say we haven't underachieved because we have for sure. But how ridiculous would it be if you heard Cincinnati, Western Michigan, Memphis, LaTech talking down to their in-state schools? It's the same for UH and UT. There are no doubt some arrogant UT fans and I can understand the hate. But the talking by some of the UH fans on this board the last year or so has been pretty crazy.
Tennessee doesn't have the resources or means that UT has. LSU doesn't really either, and they still have twice as many championships in that same period of time. Michigan has received a lot of criticism in Ann Arbor as a program that has not won as many championships as they should have recently. My point was UT fans shouldn't really look down upon other fans because, quite frankly, they haven't set the football world on fire either. I would tell UH fans the same if Baylor collapses and has a few 2-3 win seasons. It wasn't that long ago that UH was riddled with a broken program, sanctioned severely and lucky to win 30% of their games. Also, it is all in the eye of the beholder. I am not a graduate of UH (I graduated from a school in Chicago concerned with academics and not football). I grew up a UT fan, but over the years the level of arrogance from some UT fans and people associated with the university is staggering. I have a spouse that works in the administration of a major university and she has noticed the same issues (these are not unique to UT, there are other schools like Notre Dame). How ridiculous would it be if Cincinnati, Western Michigan, Memphis or LaTech talked down to their in-state schools? UT fans have talked down to every other school in the state of Texas. If you are saying that UH shouldn't talk down to UT, because UT is a bigger school; well that is absurd. If one school has been better than the other in football over a period of time, there is going to be a certain level of gloating, regardless of school size. In basketball, when Memphis was elite, the level of trash talk was insane. UT is likely to be better than UH in football over the next 5-10 years, they have an excellent coach and resources that UH doesn't have. I readily admit that, and it doesn't bother me. I have personal ties to some of the decision makers at UH that are very good people, and highly ethical. These people have a level of control and a vision for the school that is uncommon. Literally 10 people control the direction and outcome of UH in many ways and it is hard not to root for them, especially seeing how (without much attention) unbelievably successful they have been in installing their vision over the last decade. I root for the underdog. There is genuine disdain for UT by many UH fans, I don't think that can be denied. However, UH was kept out of the Big XII largely based on politics at UT years ago, then UT doesn't support UH's inclusion this time (because they whole expansion talk was a ploy to get additional money), then UT takes the extremely popular head football coach from UH. Of course UH fans are going to have a special hatred for UT. I am not arguing that there hasn't been UH fans that are "crazy", there certainly have been. However I personally don't think anymore so than UT fans on these same boards.
I am not necessarily agreeing with anyone else, but you have zero credibility..... you are a classic bandwagon fan.... Cubs, Blackhawks, UT.... I am sure you will be a Cowboys fan if they win the Super Bowl.
The sense of superiority comes with having gone to UT. I'm proud that I got a degree from the best public institution in the state that just so happens to have a historically-good football team. Nobody is saying UH shouldn't talk down to UT because of the latter's size; they say it because UT is, objectively, a better school. I do not say that to denigrate UH; it seems like the administration has made great strides in improving academics and on-campus life recently.
Because they can be arrogant. UH is improving as a football program and school, but it's not going to reach the level A&M and Texas. In Houston, UH is behind Rice in academic prestige. It does provide a educational value though. If you went to UH you'd feel left out too if all friends left the nest for bigger schools. It's just jealousy.
Honestly, what do y'all expect? Schools that rank higher do not exactly project humility toward those slightly below them. Do you think Harvard cares what state schools think of them? Or that USC cares about Fresno State's perception of them? If it's a bad thing to be proud that I went to UT, and not UH or Texas Tech, then I'm guilty as charged. I tried to be complimentary of UH, too, by saying that the strides the school has made in recent years are really great for the students and the campus itself. But, my goodness, have Cougar fans been bratty recently. It's like y'all were allowed to sit at the adults table on Thanksgiving and are now complaining you don't get wine yet.
I have degrees from Northwestern and University of Chicago. Both schools are vastly superior to the University of Texas in almost all objective measures. So using your logic you should have no problem with me talking down to UT. I won't do that though, because this odd "objectively better school" measure is a bunch of bullshit used by insecure people to justify their arrogance.
It has nothing to do with size. It has to do with one school not having anywhere near the accomplishments of another, even if few and far between. But I don't agree with the talking down of schools going the other way eiter. But you're absolutely right, there will be always be a level of gloating, that is sports. But some of the comments UH fans have been throwing around lately are pretty ridiculous. As far as the expansion part, there is a lot of speculation that it was UT's call but haven't seen anything concrete that it was. Here's a nice article on the whole thing from a lot of the old Big 12 players and how it all went down. Make of it as you will. Then you had UT's public support this go around even though so not sure why you're saying they didn't. Sure the whole talk could have been a ploy but UT could have supported any school or just expansion in general and gotten the same result. Hell we really have no idea that UT did not genuinely support UH. http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/08/16/big-12-expansion-oral-history-big-8-swc-merger
Well, when you get money shoved up your butt until it comes flying out of your eyeballs, you probably should accomplish more.
#1 One school has nowhere near the accomplishments of the other one? We are talking about UT, not Yale or Harvard. I have a degree from University of Chicago and another one from Northwestern. However that doesn't mean that someone from UT shouldn't refrain from smack talking if they want to. Further, UT hasn't exactly been lighting it up on the football field the last 5-6 years. Does that mean that a school like Boise State shouldn't talk down Notre Dame football? I get that you don't like some of the things that UH fans have said, or how they have conducted themselves. However it has ZERO to do with respecting another fan base or program based on what they have done in the past. It comes down to just been a humble person. What I don't agree with is the idea that UT some how deserves more or less respect than other institutions. #2 In 2016 did you UT vote for expanding the Big XII to include UH? Did you know that when UH made their case for expansion that some of the Big XII schools that were supposed to be present were not? Several of the people from UH that were involved in the efforts to expand have publicly discussed how it was obvious that expansion was a scam. I highly suspect that if you were a UH fan, you would feel the same way. Having said that, it doesn't really change anything in the big picture. UH can strongly dislike how UT has treated them historically, and UT can look down on UH..... but at the end of the day, their fortunes and success are not contingent on one another.
