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[Highlights] Big Man Lineup -- Dekker @ SG (you heard that right)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Dec 11, 2016.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Member

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    Who would have thought? And this might be Dekker's best stretch in the game.

    Curry is actually guarding Dekker in this (when not in zone)...Matthews takes Harden
    Dekker guards Matthews and Ariza takes Barnes

    This is an unedited 4:30 minutes. You get to see both offense and defense. What do you think? Can this work in the playoffs? What situation vs what teams would you use it on in the Western Conf playoffs?

    Anderson
    Ariza (Guards Barnes. Covered by Barnes)
    Capela
    Dekker (Guards Matthews. Covered by Curry)
    Harden (Guards Curry. Covered by Matthews)

     
  2. heypartner

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    too long, didn't watch version

    And from within that segment. Here is a beautiful possession of great ball movement. Dekker showing he can dribble and pass, for sure.

    Dallas in zone here



    Dekker attacks Curry with a nifty spin move. You can't put a SG on him.

     
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  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I have a bigger man crush on Dekker than I did Chandler Parsons. He keeps this up, he may get up there with Cuttino Mobley.
     
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    I'm not sure if there's anything he's great at, but Dekker is at least "solid" in every aspect of the game right now.
     
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    You see why D'Antoni prefers to call it 'skill-ball' as opposed to small-ball. This group can give you a lot of looks, and even more if D-Mo ever suits up. And we still haven't attempted to go super big yet, with Nene or Harrell at the 4.
     
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    Whatever gets Slam Dekker more minutes. I am hesitant to completely jump on board, but he appears to be a literally perfect modern NBA player to pair with James Harden.

    Daryl Morey struck gold with Slam Dekker, Monster Pretzel Harrell and The Swiss Roll
     
  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Dekker can be a mis-match for most non-elite NBA players. He's really strong for a wing which lets him take advantage of small light players trying to guard him and he's very skilled and quick for a PF, so he can take most power forwards off the dribble. He's also very good on the defensive end so no one not named Lebron or Durant can really take advantage of him. That is why I have such a man crush on him. He doesn't possess elite speed or strength but he is normally either faster, stronger, or more skilled than the guy covering him.
     
  8. heypartner

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    Well...my very first thought when I saw this lineup last night was you could go DMo at the 4 instead of Ryno. I doubt we ever see Harrell/Capela lineups with D'Antoni....except for defensive stops in crunch-time, maybe.
     
  10. hakeem94

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    Then he's great at having an all around solid game. or great at completeness of the game.
     
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    I'm going to have to disagree, the guy is great at running the floor and creating space in doing so. He's a really high-motor guy with a high skill level.
     
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  12. ilias

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    It's an intersting idea. Dekker showed flashes that he can become the secondary playmaker in that line-up. Already much better at putting the ball on the floor than Ariza and Anderson. However, without a second guard, you 'll get a lot of Harden dribbling the ball aimlessly, could stagnate the offense. Defensively, it depends on matchups. Ariza could guard opposing PGs allowing Harden and Dekker to defend their true positions.
     
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    What do I think? I think Kevin McHale would never allow for this type of thing. I mean, you can never ever play a player who is out of his position in a position that isn't naturally suited towards said player.

    Basically, the 1980's called and want Kevin McHale back.
     
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    Don't remind me of that coach, also has the old school mindset that rookies need to sit on bench and watch/absorb knowledge from veterans, regardless of their skill level, hence why D-mo and Jones took forever to develop. That mindset waste a year of playing time, basically getting paid to sit on bench. If your own coach doesn't have trust in you, how can you trust yourself and play with confidence. D'Antoni trusted his rookies, granted (they are both better/less raw than tjones and d-mo), but now they are contributing and making the bench great again.
     
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    HP flooding the market like No Limit in the 90's. Master P was lesser quality though..
     
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    He's about to show the world he's on Durant's level.
     
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    I like your thought process but would like a more scientific elaboration that is, how exactly do we know the youngsters are good because of the antoni trust and not because mchale made them absorb knowledge before that.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    The way i see it is, look how dekker and harrell pan out, versus tjones and dmo. Dekker and Harrell played under Dantoni, while the other two under Mchale regime. Danotini at least let them earn their playing time, by plugging them into the rotation, creating chemistry. Mchale for d-mo and tjones, just let them sit out most of their rookie years as benchwarmers, or sent them down to vipers.

    Granted maybe the two rookies we have now had more talent than dmo and tjones, but sitting them out to let them absorb the game is pointless for Mchale's system, when the Rockets relied solely on Harden iso and run/gun. Look how long it took jones and dmo to actually develop and be useful to the team. I am not saying letting rookies sit on bench to just absorb knowledge is wrong, it just depends if there's really anything to learn. Mchale has the old stubborn school mindset that in order to keep rookies not have huge ego, got to learn to respect the game or some bs by sitting on bench.

    A food analogy. When u get ingredients sometimes u just got to use it and it will pan out to be good or sht, but at least you know right away the quality of the ingredient. ('danoti). or u can just marinate it in sht (learn the gameplan, clap clap play harder) and let it sit there over time, and maybe it will taste better (mchale).
     
  19. Jatman20

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    I like Dekker at PF over D-Mo...but "If" D-Mo joined the Rockets, I was looking forward to Capela/D-Mo
    playing most mins at Center. Dekker getting most of his mins backing Ariza.....with a slight
    wrinkle, Ariza backing up Harden more. This would allow Gordon to get more rest. Some
    believe heavy mins logged won't cause injuries. Some believe the opposite. I believe
    heavy mins logged influence leg injuries. Excessive miles on tires increase the risks of
    blowouts(IMO). With Gordon/Ryno injury histories they could both get more time off. IMO.
    At times when Ariza and Dekker are in the game simultaneously at SG/SF and require
    rest near the same time.....Brewer or KJ can get about 6 mins.
     
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