CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

We will never what happened during the RNC when Trump came around during the primaries.... such a shame.... or Trump's taxes.... Oh well.... I'm sure it's trivial...

... hell Trump actually got caught and fined for bribing a judge and she's the unethical one. Love it.

 

You act like this happens during every election cycle. I can't personally think of another election in my lifetime where another country tried to influence our democratic process. I'm more than willing to concede being wrong if this is in fact an every election cycle occurrence and is much ado about nothing. I don't believe that it is.

 

Again when was the last time another country openly tried to influence our democratic process? I'm really curious to know.

 

It's very strange to see folks not care that an authoritarian brutal leader of a foreign regime broke the law, hacked emails of United States citizens and organizations in an effort to meddle in the democracy of the United States. Now, we don't know how effective or ineffective it was.

But it is certainly a big deal. It was a big deal when the leader of the U.S. tried to steal documents from political rivals and it became watergate. It seems worse when it's done by a foreign nation. I guess the people who don't put country before party are showing themselves plainly here.

This is a time when both parties could and should unite against interference from an aggressive, brutal, and authoritarian leader of a rival nation with United States property and democracy.

Other nations have preferences for presidential candidates and sometimes they even voice those. What they don't do is steal documents from computers of United States citizens and organizations in the United States. They haven't tried to subvert democracy like Russia has done now. I honestly thought this would be an issue on which everyone would agree. It really is strange to see some Americans not care that is happening.

 

Trump doesn't care about any fact findings. All he have to do is let the CIA do their work or order one himself when he's in the office. But he live in conspiracy theories that support his views to protect his ego and image. That's why he is a danger to the US. Not only because he will have power, but enough of the elected GOP and Trump's supporters will blindly fall in line, or just stay quiet when Trump no doubt visit conspiracy lands.

 

I am very bothered by the relationship between the CIA and Trump. Weakening the CIA is dangerous, and our right-wing friends here don't seem to mind that at all.

This isn't a Hillary versus Trump thing, I accept that Trump won and will be president. This is a WTF is Trump doing by stonewalling and mocking the CIA????

This was a most disturbing quote:

There are many things I don't like about what Republicans are going to do the next few years - but I can't believe they are ok with weakening and politicizing our intelligence agencies.

 

I can.

Remember this. Republican "value" voters voted for "p***y Grabbing " Trump.

 

"manipulated" how?

the manipulation seems to amount to leaks of emails

 

Its really sad the left is more outraged that Russia, an adversary to the Obama administration, exposed the emails instead of the unethical behavior of the DNC.

And they are still wondering why they lost the election.

 

http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/te...eagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html

 

I'm actually really perplexed that staunch jingoists such as yourself aren't outraged that a foreign entity that has a long history especially with the current regime of being against the interests of America desired an outcome for OUR election and got what they wanted.

And we've been through this many times. Trump won the election because we have millions of voters who are gullible enough to believe in silly things such as Pizzagate or a impending new industrial revolution fueled by coal because...Trump.

 

Those are internal affairs and they will get played out (there is even a thread on it here).

For someone that talk about hacking much in the past, you don't give a crap about a foreign bad actor hacking a major US political party server. Speak volume.

 

I haven't seen any empirical evidence of this.

There were plenty of dumb Obama voters as well who thought he would be their savior.

 

Personally, having a foreign country that you are at odds with having the ability to sway domestic policy is a scarier thought than the DNC corruption. Let's just hope that Russia doesn't influence Trump's administration to our country's detriment.

 

I brought this up in another thread but this was a close election. I don't think anyone can say for sure how much effect that Russian hackers might've had on the election but in an election that was this close even a very marginal effect can be magnified.

 

it would be interesting to see future White House briefings .
CIA director: Mr President ,Russia may plan to invade the rest of Ukraine.
FBI director: we cought 2 new Russian spies
Trump: liars

 

Lol the dems are pissed that Podesta and the dems' bad behavior was brought to light. Maybe next time lose the bad behavior! In other words, you're pissed you got caught!

 

Not a Dem v. Repub issue, or at least it shouldn't be unless you're Mitch McConnell. It goes straight to our idea of and independence as a nation.

Hillary will not be President. End of story. It's still theoretically possible, but practically impossible, and it will not happen. The only question is whether we will have a functioning government on January 20.

If it comes out that Russia was giving Trump's campaign oppo intel or especially If Trump himself was involved, he can't be president.

As an American, I am appalled. For those of you pooh-poohing this, what would your reaction be if the results were the opposite? I'm sure we would all be OK with Russian influence helping Hillary eke out a popular vote loss/electoral win. I can state with some confidence I would not be supportive of her presidency under those circumstances.

We knew about some of this before the election, but it never got traction even though it led to a well-publicized exchange during one of the debates. I'm pissed at McConnell for making it a partisan deal and I'm pissed at Obama for not ignoring McConnell's threats.

Now, Trump is not doing Intel briefings, questioning the intelligence they are bringing and appointing people that sure makes it look like there is something going on.

We need a complete airing of the evidence and what we know regardless of the upheaval it will cause.

Should that Trump shoe drop, I wonder how quickly we can unite behind President Ryan?

 

That's t what bothers me. Trump should be concerned with the CIA report. It's not that the outcome of the election should be different but rather that a foreign power interfered.

It does raise suspicion that Trump was aware of what was going on and may have had some contact with Russia about this beforehand.