CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

CIA and US intelligence agencies assessment <> conspiracy theories.

Didn't said Russia was effective and "rigged" the election. What they have said so far is they were directly involved and tried to influence the US election. That shouldn't be tolerated.

 

We have arrived, this is the beginning of the post fact era. The Comb-over-in-chief-elect can tweet made up gibberish that his more cymical acolytes know is a lie and his administration says they think the CIA is wrong and unluxurious based on nothing while team murrica laps it up. Conservatives, you think this is liberal salt, that it's funny a foreign government directly hacked an election to help produce the results they wanted? Hillary probably looses regardless, but just because it broke your way it's no big deal? I wasn't on the Sam meltdown train over this originally but how do I respect an office, the highest in the world, after this? Maybe I'm overreacting, im sure I'll carry the label of triggered but this should make everyone take notice. I cant believe I'm saying this, but thank God Lindsay Graham is in the Senate and will investigate further.

 

It was inevitable, Sam, we should just sit back and enjoy it.

 

This isn't great news for Hillary!

 

Brings to mind a Clayton Williams quote...to bad we can't enjoy the weather or the dry hump that Putin just gave us

 

Russian directly try to influence US election. Talk about Hillary. Give it up on Hillary already.

 

All you're going to hear is snarky responses from the right or justifications about how it doesn't matter who released those emails - that it's in the the national interest they were released. It's also in the national interest that our president-elect release his tax returns, but whatever.

I actually heard somebody tell me, "Even if it is true, once Trump gets his people in there Russia won't have a need to hack anything, anyway."

Indeed.

 

Now what?

 

I suppose this officially settles it. Hillary should be president. Now we can officially go to war with Russia for doing what we do to every other country.

 

how did the Russian meddling manifest itself?

 

I don't know. Uncharted territory. Hopefully Lindsay Graham does that investigation and holds the administration accountable from the inauguration.
Luckily, SNL is tonight so everybody will have forgotten about this when Trump tweets that he thinks he can turn Kate Mckinnon straight when he gr..well you know the rest.

We're having fun!

 

Anyone using this as a reason to argue that Clinton is the rightful president is off base, unless they can show that Trump willingly participated in the cyber attack.

That said, the Republican response to this is quite predictable -- focus on Hillary Clinton and her flawed candidacy rather than the actual security breach itself, which should be a concern to all Americans who care about the election process.

 

agreed

 

This is basically a "Bengazi was just a protest of a Youtube video" type story. Should the US work to prevent hacker attacks like this in the future? Sure, did it have anything to do with why Hillary lost? No.

 

Except that has been the primary cry during the election against Hillary from day 1? Do you remember the whole "don't run email servers from your bathroom" all election long? Do you remember it was the left who said this was just another irrelevant attempt to smear Clinton?

Cyber warfare has been a very big concern for over a decade. "Blame Russia" is not a valid form of defense for cyber warfare, especially considering the US is the biggest perpetrator by far. You're not going to stop Russia, China and all the hundreds of groups trying to compromise every electronic form in this country.

With cyber warfare becoming one of the most important and influential concerns for the coming decades, why would we elect a commander in chief who does not understand why she should not run an email server in her bathroom? Or the party who actually got their dirt compromised and exposed?

We can focus on the security breach; DNC, quit running a lose ship and tighen up your security. Don't put damning evidence out there to be exposed. Learn about morals and ethics.

Do you think the RNC didnt get compromised?

 

Also, it is funny that the same people who have praised Wikileaks for the "transparency" it provided in the past are the same people whining about it now that the light shined in the direction of their favorite presidential candidate. I guess everyone loves a whistle blower until that whistle is being blown on them.

 

Good and yes. We should focus on that but most of all on the involvement of Russia and their preference for one candidate over another. The connections between Trump and Russia must now be exhaustively probed. This is very unsettling. I am not a person saying "okay Clinton should be president" -- not at all. She ran a bad campaign and lost the E.C. But Russia screwing around with our election and an authoritarian foreign leader having a preference for our leadership should bother us all.

I don't know and you don't know. What seems obvious is that neither Russia nor wikileaks gave two ***** about RNC dirty laundry.

Former CIA boss Hayden when told Trump was denying the CIA report:
"To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions. Wow..."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/09/technology/trump-russia-hackers-cia

Wow, indeed. The president elect should demand answers like everyone else, no matter that the Russians favored him. Unless there is something more to hide.

EDIT: And I've never been a big wikileaks proponent, but I thought they could do some good if they really did just serve as a clearing house of info. I was open-minded. Once they established a clear agenda and only released some of what they surely received, and now clearly collaborate with Putin's government, yeah, now I pretty much don't think very highly of them. I was always a bit skeptical and now I don't consider them a legit force for transparency. I took in data, did some reading, watched their behavior, and my thinking evolved. (This has been known to happen with smart people from time to time.) It wasn't about "oh poor DNC, I must rally to their bloated, stinking corpse!" Um, no. Screw them. They suck, obviously.