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ESPN: Donatas Motiejunas won't report to Rockets cause of $6M difference

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Gorki, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    But that can't be! Bcholic says there's no way DMo is under contract with the Rockets right now!

    Chuwel-C
     
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  2. snowconeman22

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    The perversion of you'll see is probably one of the highlights of this Dmo mess.
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    Basketball is not the real world, there are SOOOOO few people that can play NBA ball, it gives them a unique position.

    In the normal world - I agree, report to work, but this is different - with guaranteed contracts in the millions you don't want UNHAPPY campers in your clubhouse, they can POISON a good thing.

    I don't want DMo on this team if he is upset - I want him happy and ready to compete.

    I agree with DUDEWAH - GET YOUR ASS INTO MOREY'S office and work it out....give a little take a little and sign and get to work.

    DD
     
  4. dobro1229

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    Yeah I'm not sure what Hollic is talking about here because yesterday I recall either Coon or Marks stating that even in this position, as the Rockets officially matched the contract, D-Mo is now subject to NBA contract rules. Meaning he can be fined, cannot sign a contract in Europe, etc.

    I'm sure Hollic knows more than Coon & Marks though.
     
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  5. apollo33

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    I'm now more amused about Jopat's inablity to ever admit he is wrong than DMo. Actually fascinating
     
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  6. hooroo

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    the rockets would have to waive the physical first otherwise no contract has been approved by the nba
     
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    "The norm" means nothing in this case. Absolutely nothing. We're talking about millions of dollars here, future earnings power.

    Don't understand people taking sides here against DMo. He's simply trying to maximize his current and future earnings power here. You think he should play for a low qualifying offer. Why should he do that and risk an injury making $4.4 million when he can make double that or more and then if he gets hurt he's got more to fall back on? Some of you guys make no sense. Why not just understand what is happening here and accept it? That doesn't make me a DMo only fan because I understand what he's doing.

    Another question. What do you think Morey would be doing for DMo if he were DMo's agent? Yep, you guessed it. He'd be playing hard ball just like BJ is now.

    Rockets have to decide whether they are going to negotiate a contract that makes more sense for them and DMo or are they going to stick to this one and possibly be stuck with DMo for the next two seasons without the ability to trade him or have to pay him over $8 million for a couple months and then release him.

    There's a simple solution available here which aligns everyone's interests. Knowing that Utah is possible waiting to give DMo 2/23, I'd negotiate a multi-year deal starting around $16-17 million in year 1 with 7.5% decreases with the first season fully guaranteed and following seasons non-guaranteed with guarantee dates for the next season somewhere in the second week of July after the moratorium.

    This deal gives everybody what they want. DMo gets his money and the balance of the season to prove his worth. Rockets get the freedom to get out of his deal if needed but they are incentivized tremendously to play the wheels off DMo and turn him into a great trade asset on a reasonable contract. If I were Morey I'd be negotiating this kind of deal right now so I could execute it tomorrow as soon as I returned DMo to restricted free agency.
     
  8. heypartner

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    That's not true. That's just what you are assuming. But the CBA blocks that idea completely.

    As soon as Rockets sent their First Right Exercise Notice, he is deemed to be under contract. For the purposes of disciplinary action, it is as if the contract was signed on Monday. It is very clearly stated in the CBA, as well as Larry Coon highlighted that point in his recent article about the situation.

    He can be suspended and fined and docked pay and, if he doesn't show in 30 days, it gets really bad for him. And note, the suspensions wouldn't start until his first game eligible, so that could play a part in moving the waive date back, if not eliminating it.
     
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    Oh boy.

    "Morey should give him $16 million"

    Da *** did I just read?
     
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  10. topfive

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    So DMo gets 30+% more money than Eric Gordon this year?

    Yeah, you're a smart one.

    The Rockets hold all the cards now. The only thing DMo has to offer are his services, and with each passing game the team proves how little they need him.

    I'll bet your fantasy basketball teams suuuuuuck.
     
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  11. dharocks

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    He's finally ****ing lost it.
     
  12. J Sizzle

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    Alright folks. We're done here. Holic has forgotten both the rules and logic itself.

    *remembers Holic is just a troll*

    Damnit! He got me again! This dude is good.
     
  13. lnchan

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    Remember Bholic has the same number of votes as we do individually ... in Clutchfans polls.
     
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    How some people cannot wrap there heads around the facts for this issue is mind boggling . There have been multiple articles and clarifications not only here on clutchfans but nationally and posted on Twitter
     
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    Lol, read the $16-17 million for a season contract post, scrolled back up and realized it was his agent who posted. :)
     
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    Dude's troll game is some of the best I've ever seen.
     
  17. snowconeman22

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    Guys I alsmot want to Unignore Hollic just to see what absurd things he's saying . Should I take the bait ?
     
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  18. justtxyank

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    Brilliant idea for the future.

    RFA signs offer sheet and we match it, he pouts and morey should tear up the offer that the RFA signed and sign him to a deal that more than doubles his salary this year and guarantees him free agency next year? Yikes
     
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  19. CCity Zero

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    Lol, maybe... It's getting good. I'm convinced he's channeling his inner bj Armstrong, hell at this point he might be him. I need to check something though, I don't think Rubio is working w/ bj yet...
     
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  20. heypartner

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    he keeps thinking the player gains leverage to hold-out to wait and demand Rockets either sign the contract or void it at a most favorable time for the player ... like Jan or Feb. (Basically he thinks the player can hold the contract and terms hostage.)

    That's the big "seam" and "genius" he keeps talking about.

    In 30 days, the Rockets have the potential to eliminate DMo's entire year off the record books, such that no only does he lose a season worth of money, but he loses a Year for Veteran Tenure....which means that big raise you get at after year 6, he won't get until after year 7. And this also gives them the right to not allow any team sign him without the Rockets consent. I'm telling ya ... the NBA's hold-out disciplinary action can get very harsh ... it's not player-friendly like the NFL.

    If DMo and BJ don't understand that...and clearly bballholic doesn't,,,then they are in for a rude awakening if they attempt to hold-out for 30-days while considered under contract by CBA Rules.

    And in the meantime, he can be suspended without pay for all games missed starting now, and to be served starting the first game eligible if he does sign....and this might actually allow Rockets to move the waive date back for failure to appear under terms of the Base Compensation Protection amendments (the salary guarantee schedules/target dates)....since they didn't have his services and get to assess his play at the start date agreed.
     
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