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ESPN: Donatas Motiejunas won't report to Rockets cause of $6M difference

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Gorki, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. valorita

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    They right.
    The NBA and players association could care less about Dmo's situation, especially in the light of the new cba.
    Rockets have all the leverage.
    In my mind, the only way to rectify this situation for Dmo is to sign the contract and fire BJ.
     
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    lol too funny
     
  4. Snow Villiers

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    Calvin on Dmo situation: "Its only business"
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    No one is blaming anyone, and how can you say...how is he a rare commodity, ANY NBA level player is a rare commodity with a unique skillset.

    DD
     
  6. MrButtocks

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    Rarity is relative to the league, not the labor pool at large. Kobe Bryant and Dirk Nowitski got no trade clauses in their contracts because they were superstars. Brian Scalabrine didn't get to make demands, he was fortunate just to keep getting contracts.

    DMo is a common player in the NBA. Yes, he'll get millions of dollars because he is an elite athlete, but he doesn't need to be taken care of any more than Nicolas Batum, who didn't get the incentives he signed for when Portland matched his contract. If DMo demanded a no trade clause just because Kobe had one, would you expect Morey to give it to him just to make him "happy"?
     
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  7. BigMaloe

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    Not accurate. If you believe this you aren't paying attention to the details. You have to see what's going on here. There are things happening behind scenes. Restricted free agency rules are cut and dry, it's dirty business. If you don't understand that I don't know what to tell you. I've already explained it enough. If you can't read between the lines to understand than I can't help you. This is what's happening just wait.

    Thou shall witness
     
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    LOL.

    What's going to happen here valorita? Are the Rockets going to put him back in restricted free agency or are they going to keep the door open?
     
  9. DaDakota

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    So, DMo has a choice - he can play for less and get 2 years guaranteed then the Rox will trade him as a non guaranteed expiring, or he can hold out and hope that the Rockets will give in on incentives (good luck with that).

    DD
     
  10. tmacfor35

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    Why are dmo threads getting so much attention?
     
  11. zcarenow

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    If the Rockets pull the offer off table since Motie doesn't want to return, then Motie will be a restricted free agent again. Does this mean that some other team with a better offer than the Nets could make one and Rockets would have to match or not. What if some team offered 11mil/year?
     
  12. Tha_Dude

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    Who really stands to benefit from dragging this thing out even longer? I mean, it doesn't seem very beneficial for Dmo nor the Rockets.

    They need to come to an agreement soon, man,.
     
  13. Nook

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    What I find sad is that the Rockets performance and hard work is being overshadowed by an incompetent agent and a mediocre basketball player.
     
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    I just had a moment to read the NBA Uniform Player Contract template and the pertinent parts of the CBA regarding Principal Terms and "Base Compensation protection." Base Compensation Protection is a Principal Term, and it used to provide guarantees for Lack of Skill (for instance).

    So, the guarantees and their negotiated dates are part of Principal Terms, if I'm reading this correctly. However, they are included in the list of contract terms that are renegotiable, per CBA Faq. (Some things never can be renegotiated.) So, it is safe to say that you can negotiate these if he player accepts it. Just like it is the Team's right not to accept the Bonuses, but they can, I'm confident we will find out that the Player can accept changes, too, that the have a Right to reject. I don't think the Nets could block these negotiations.

    We have been tossing around the phrase "Locked-in" by the match. I think it is better referred to as Team and Player Rights, that they can adjust if they want to.

    bottomline: the comment by Watkins in the OP article seems perfectly valid. The Team and Player not only can add the Bonuses back in (and even increase them), they also can negotiate the Principal Terms.
     
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    I agree, and its only going to get worse the longer this thing drags on. If I'm the Rockets I go ahead and pay him the incentives or let him go back to being a RFA again. There's not going to be a happy ending to this thing man, BJ aside.
     
  16. opticon

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    He either needs to give in now or hold out till the last week of February and then take the physical. By then the rockets may value the open roster spot and cap room more than making Dmo wait till the off season to become a restricted free agent again.

    This is just a crappy situation all around. There are no winners only losers.
     
  17. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Why pay him the incentives? That is just setting a wrong precedent. Rockets should play tough and do what it takes to get BJ fired from the league
     
  18. J Sizzle

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    DMo and BJ *foolishly* agreed to things that weren't guaranteed. It's not the Rockets responsibility to cater to them signing deals that they don't like.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Same thing would happen again, Houston could match.

    It has been reported that Morey will give him the 6m in incentives if he moves the 2nd year guarantee from March 1st to July.

    DD
     
  20. valorita

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    Rockets are going to do what they have been doing...
    Stick to their guns, be patient, and make rational decisions.
    DMo has two options: Join the team or continue to be in limbo.
    Meanwhile, Morey will probably also try to explore creative alternatives doe resolution where both parties save face.

    This is just my hunch based on the last 10yrs of Morey.
     

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