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ESPN: Donatas Motiejunas won't report to Rockets cause of $6M difference

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Gorki, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. LHSPanther62

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    Big men in the NBA tend to make double digits per year if they are veteran players. IF the Rockets believe that Dmo can reach the levels that he showcased in 2014-2015 then he is worth the incentives. IF he does not meet them then cool rockets don't lose out. If he does meet them then the rockets are still getting a steal for a quality skilled 7 footer.
     
  2. bongman

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    Morey is playing by the rules provided by the CBA and have abided by all the things that is required of him. Dmo was a no show for his physical and Morey is making it difficult?

    Ryan Anderson and a lot of other players disagrees with you with regards to RFA signings
     
  3. Smacktle

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    Some of you guys have such a victim mentality!
     
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  4. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    This is the same bullshit mentality that has caused the exponential growth of irresponsible, self-entitled, instant gratification seeking brats that we have in society today. When I was self-employed, I showed up and put in my work for even contracts that turned out bad. Why? Because that's how I was raised and that's how real men are raised, with personal responsibility. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but in the end, you do right as a professional. You signed a contract, you own up to it.

    You keep talking about him being happy (not surprised, as you always seem to side with players over the team), but I don't buy it. If he does show up as a malcontent, well that's just going to hurt him. He's a professional. That contract is what he signed and the job that he needs to do. It doesn't matter if his agent screwed up, because ultimately that's on him to. His agent doesn't make him sign that line with his signature. I really hope we just sit his ass until he throws in the towel, because I have no respect for people who bail on what they signed up for, especially people who make more in a year than most of us make in a lifetime.
     
  5. duluth111222

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    It did. I remember that as well
     
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  6. bigred77

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    Go tell your boss that your not happy because you think your underpaid. You didn't realize taxes would take such a big bite out of your check. It's interfering with you being able to do your job to the best of your ability. If he would just give you a 10% raise he could easily make this a non-issue. That's a fairly apt analogy to what's happening with DMo
     
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  7. Os Trigonum

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    very nice, very nice.
     
  8. kubli9

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    The same RFA that got Crabbe 4yrs/$75mil and Tyler Johnson 4yrs/$50mil?
     
  9. basketballholic

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    You just seen him exercise his options. Why are you asking what they are? As long as the Rockets don't put DMo back into RFA before Jan 10, DMo can just hang out at the house and then come in around Jan 9-10 for his physical. If he passes, the Rockets owe him his entire salary since it guarantees on Jan 10, and if they flunk him, the Nets owe him the entire salary plus the incentives he qualifies for and on top of that, we lose an asset........for nothing.

    Or if the Rockets leave the deal open DMo could choose to give up a couple million dollars or so from the contract pro-rating after Jan. 10th, and come in around Feb 25th, after the trade deadline and before the March 1 cutoff. Rockets can then pass him in the physical and then have a week to decide whether they want to pay him for next season, or they can fail him and cede him to the Nets for no return.

    Or the Rockets can go ahead and waive the physical now and perhaps then fine him a few dollars for no showing after his physical I'd he decides not to come in until Jan 10, which he would probably do.

    Or they could go ahead and negotiate in good faith and give Donatas an appropriate first year guarantee number to move the second year guarantee date back to July 15th. They will have to agree on this figure prior to putting him back in restricted free agency and it'll have to be a number high enough that they aren't concerned about Utah topping once he is back in restricted free agency.

    Or they could negotiate a buyout attached to agreeing to waive the physical and having him under contract which would make DMo an unrestricted free agent and able to negotiate a deal elsewhere. There's really no reason for the Rockets to do this unless some team that wants DMo exercises shine sort of trade with the Rockets that requires an extra roster spot on our end. (Maybe we can squeeze both Diaw and Neto or Bolomboy for Brewer?)

    Do you see a pattern here? None of these things really benefit us without giving DMo substantially more guaranteed money in the first year. But they all benefit DMo.

    The ball is in the Rockets court. We should know something tomorrow on where they are headed here.
     
  10. YaoMing#1

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    The NBA is a business first and foremost and the players know this all too well.

    Doing this to James Harden, sure that might get potential FA to change there opinion of this organization, but for DMO? Ya freaking right.

    If anything I would bet most players think he should get his butt to that physical and start playing games so he can get his 8m $ check.

    I'm glad the rockets are doing what their doing and not budging.

    If BJ didn't tell DMO that the rockets could match the offer and not have to include the incentives that's on BJ. Be mad at you agent, fire him take him to court over lost 6m in salary but the rockets did and are doing what is right.

    Because if the rockets budge your going to see agents and players try and do this a lot more in restricted free agency.

    I can assure you DD that every NBA owner and GM is on the rockets side and is actively rooting for them not to budge.
     
  11. Mathloom

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    No, that's not what's the most important thing at the end of the day.

    What's important at the end of the day is are we closer to winning a championship or not. With that in mind you have to factor not just next week but also the next 5-10 years. Our serious shot at becoming a solid championship contender is next season and the development of the system and the players who will carry over to next season.

    Whether D-Mo is happy or not is a blip on the screen. He can make us a better team, but he is not going to turn us into a top 4 NBA team. The organization's reputation when it comes to signing FA's looms large. We can't allow somehow to half-assedly bully the team. We can't let star players see that we don't care about being professional. Giving D-Mo these incentives will make the Rockets look like weaklings to other players, many of whom must be in shock that a player would sign a contract then refuse the terms.

    What we need to do here is end BJ's reputation and do what's best for the Rockets in the next 5 years. You know what's better for our future than a semi-disgruntled hardworking D-Mo at $37m? A disgruntled hard working D-Mo for $31m. It's a more tradable contract, a more reasonable price for the risk we're taking, and it is what he agreed to. It's not my money but I don't want Les feeling like his pockets are heavy this summer.
     
  12. tobster

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    I don't ever really post... But I'll jump in to say this statement is pretty dumb. Contracts are there for a reason. You have lawyers and agents representing you for a reason... I'd love to see you take it so easily if someone else messed up but you have to pay up for it.

    I've been on this forum for years reading all the insight everyone provides but I've gotta say that is the definition of a DMOF response... But my post count is very high so what do I know? o_O
     
  13. topfive

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    DM knocks on Les' office door.

    LA: Yes, yes, come in. What is it now?
    DM: Motiejunas didn't show up for his physical.
    LA: You have got to be sh!tting me.
    DM: He and his agent say they want the same incentives the Nets promised.
    LA: Don't we have to give him whatever was on their offer sheet?
    DM: Um, no sir. We're not on the hook for the incentives.
    LA: Dammit, just give him the incentives! I'm so beyond tired of this crap. What a whiner.
    DM: So you approve of us matching on the incentive bonuses, too?
    LA: YES! I don't stutter. Are you deaf? Pay him the ******* money! Anything to help the team.
    DM: Okay, then I'll tell them we're fine with the $6 million worth of incentives. This will get it done, finally.

    DM turns to leave. He gets to the door.

    LA: WAIT! Did you say SIX MILLION?!?

    DM: Yes, sir.

    Les thinks for a moment.

    LA: Scratch that. What other options do we have
    ?
     
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  15. rockets13champs

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    Dmo knows hes a big injury away from not being in the league. So he is trying to get as much money as possible
     
  16. Os Trigonum

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    that's EXACTLY how it happened. good one.
     
  17. kjayp

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    Exactly!
    So we finally have the root of the problem (other than BJ being an idiot and not being able to properly direct his client....
    Morey knew his requirements on matching... and decided to use them as leverage to try to get something he didn't like in the contract changed...

    shrewd... kinda a dick move... but shrewd... and not his fault BJ is an idiot...
     
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  18. rockets13champs

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    6 million to les is $60 to us
     
  19. duluth111222

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    Shouldn't it go both ways? Shouldn't the employees make sure their emplyer is happy too and don't do anything stupid like not reporting to work?

    He's lucky he's in the NBA. In any other business his arse will be fired.
     
  20. J Sizzle

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    This isn't how negotiations work. If you agree to something that isn't guaranteed, then you cannot act like it's guaranteed.
     
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