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[Official] Astros Off-Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. raining threes

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    If that's what he's saying, then that would just be dumb.
     
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  2. Snake Diggit

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    Listen you stupid ****ing assholes, all I was doing was highlighting the lack of optionable players on the ****ing 40 man roster. I wasn't saying Musgrove or Devenski will be optioned. I was saying that assuming the Astros don't use any of their remaining 40 man spots to acquire optionable players, they will be in a position where optioning a player like Musgrove or Devenski is their only option. I can't believe a pretty innocuous comment could be so hard to understand or draw so much ire. Jesus.
     
  3. Houstunna

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    DC has triple our ring-count and they have hockey... and they have Georgetown.

    WAS is easily better than HOU.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    No, it happens all the time so teams have flexibility to make moves during without worrying about DFAing their guys.

    This is what I was trying to get at: there will be a 3rd catcher on the 40man, Stassi has to pass waivers, so that's something they *have* to do before OD. Doesn't have to be Stassi, but they will claim or promote someone. That's a given.

    Does anyone really care about Peacock or Chapman unless they just blow everyone away in ST and earn a spot on the 25? Regardless, they're DFA'd or traded...so what?

    This is why I really didn't understand why you were talking about 2 of Feliz or Musgrove or Devo as being sent down.
     
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  5. mick fry

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    Now I can't sleep.
     
  6. Nook

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    He will still find a way to have 2-3 dead spots in the order every other game.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    And you'll find 2-3 dead spots in the game to b!tch about something.

    Haven't watched/talked soccer or hockey with you yet, but the other 3 you have covered.
     
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  8. bigdaddy

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    Need to get the season going or this b****fest is going to get nasty up in here.
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    It's all in good offseason fun, I hope. Nook for one knows it. I haven't even called MadMax a co******er yet.

    But yes, as much as I love football and basketball, Spring Training can't happen soon enough.
     
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  10. raining threes

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    Thanks

    I misunderstood your point, I apologize for hurting your feeling.

    And you're right, better men than you have rightfully called me an a**hole. It's in my genes.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Jesus can't help you now, you spastic limp-dicked j*zz-mopper.

    I was just asking questions earlier, I apologize if I somehow offended you.
     
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  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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  13. Buck Turgidson

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    Good answer...good answer

     
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  14. Nook

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    Let's see, what will be the possible b**** points...

    Astros don't get Sale;

    Bregman starts slow and fans want him dealt for Shelby Miller;

    Beltran has a 750 OPS after 20 games and fans decide he is past his prime;

    Ken Giles is Ken Giles;

    AJ Hinch finds a way to get 3 sub .220 bats in the line up and my brain ends up all over the walls from a brain aneurysm.
     
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  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Yep. Trading Bregman for a guy named Shelby would do it.

    Although I do love Shelby Foote.
     
  16. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
     
  17. SWTsig

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    ESPN rumor mill saying stros possibly shopping mchugh and gattis.
     
  18. J.R.

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    Even while the Astros shop for an ace, they're also dangling two of their current starters, Collin McHugh & Mike Fiers, to create roster and payroll flexibility. - Jayson Stark

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    The White Sox must hurry as this Sale may not last long

    The White Sox have their asking prices for other teams for Chris Sale, as Chicago markets the left-hander, and some rival executives believe that Chicago’s intent now is much different than it was in July, when Sale’s name first emerged.

    Back then, other teams report, Chicago’s asking price was so high -- their requests were so enormous -- that making a deal was all but impossible. Evaluators with other clubs wondered if the White Sox intent at that time was much more about gathering information.

    But some evaluators who spoke to the White Sox then and are dealing with them now have a very different feel about the current conversations, and are convinced Chicago is pursuing offers in the earnest hope of finding the right match and moving Sale, one way or another.

    This read of the White Sox could be dead on, because according to sources, the White Sox are pushed by a concern in some corners of the Chicago organization that it's inevitable the All-Star left-hander with the contortionist pitching mechanics will eventually break down.

    The White Sox want to be sure to move Sale while he still has optimal value, especially at a time when they are rebuilding and know they’re not going to win in the immediate future.

    The 27-year-old Sale continues to pitch at an All-Star level, for a contract that makes him even more attractive: He’s owed $12 million for 2017, with club options for each of the next two seasons, at $12.5 million and $13.5 million. He’s a great pitcher and because of the terms of his deal, he bears virtually no financial risk for a team acquiring him. So the potential return could be high.

    But some teams are not leaping at the chance to make a deal. As reported here early last week, the Braves are not going to include Dansby Swanson in any Sale deal. The Astros have no intention of moving Alex Bregman. The Red Sox were turned off by the asking price for Sale last summer.

    And the two teams that have been linked to Sale discussions the most, the Dodgers and the Nationals, are typically very careful with their prospects, hoarding the best of them. Rangers GM Jon Daniels told reporters here Sunday that he won’t make another prospect-driven trade similar to the deal he made for Cole Hamels, a signal that Texas won’t make a major push for Sale.

    Other teams might share the concern about Sale and his mechanics. In a year in which he focused on pitching to contact, his average fastball velocity went down.

    “He reminds you of Tim Lincecum,” said one rival evaluator. “When Lincecum was drafted, everybody wondered -- OK, how long can this little thin guy keep throwing that hard? He was great for a while, and then his performance declined dramatically.”

    “When Sale was drafted, everybody wondered -- how long can he pitch with those mechanics?”

    And evaluators, including some with the White Sox, still have their doubts.

    Executives with other teams are curious to see how Chicago will respond if some team doesn’t jump at its trade requests for Sale, and how much they’ll reduce the sticker price for the left-hander.
     
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  19. No Worries

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    Astros are likely listening to offers on everybody not named Altuve or Correa (or Bregman it appears).
     
  20. MadMax

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    coworker?
     

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