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Trump cabinet selections and appointments

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. Amiga

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    He excluded defense from that remark. Read it again.
     
  2. Commodore

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    http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/02/served-james-mattis-heres-learned/

     
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  3. The Stig

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    General consensus of the Mattis pick is positive? Or negative? I can't really tell.
     
  4. Commodore

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  5. Amiga

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    Don't know anything about the general. But on the surface and relative to the other appts, it's positive. The bar is just low with Trump. If it's not outrageous, it's probably positive.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    It's the Bush era all over again.

    His supporters conveniently forgot that mess.

    Looks they're taking the same roofies to dull the pain.
     
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  7. okierock

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    Nah... everyone knows that the tears of the liberals who have been obnoxiously flaunting their political dominance for the last 8 years are the ultimate pain reliever... so sweet.

    You guys are making conservatives who couldn't stand Trump love the guy with all your whining.... it is an awesome sight to behold.
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    I wouldn't call the last 8 years political dominance.

    Maybe that's why both sides are miserable and angry right now.
     
  9. Amiga

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    Awesome. Your perception of the other side suffering is more important than what's beneficial for you.
     
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  10. MojoMan

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    Chris Christie's name is being floated as the new head of the Republican National Committee (RNC), replacing Reince Priebus. This looks like a very excellent pick. I certainly cannot think of anyone better.

    Christie does not appear to be a lock for the job at this point. However, he did help Trump a lot on the campaign trail early on. Surely Trump is not going to forget that now. Is he?
     
  11. rimrocker

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    I kind of like Mattis, or at least the image he has created of Mattis. My FB friends who are ex-Marines love the guy and would run through walls for him.

    And that is one reason I can't get behind this pick.

    We have civilian control of the military for a reason. In 1947, when Congress did away with the War Department and created DOD, they were informed by the horrors of WWII. Here is what Congress said at the time:

    [It is the] ...sense of the Congress that after General Marshall leaves the office of Secretary of Defense, no additional appointments of military men to that office shall be approved.

    The Military Times writes today:

    The principle of civilian control of the military is anchored in the belief in a balance of power. It sets the U.S. and other democracies apart from countries where militaries plot coups to overturn governments.

    It ensures, said Spencer Meredith, an associate professor at the National Defense University, that the military is just one tool an administration can use in conflict so it isn't fighting constant and even needless wars.


    Going back further:

    Even when there is a necessity of the military power, within a land, a wise and prudent people will always have a watchful and jealous eye over it. - Samuel Adams

    Additionally, in The Federalist Papers, Hamilton and Madison came back repeatedly to the subject of an out-of-control military.

    Civilian control is one of the foundational principles of liberal (little L) democracies and one that has a long history in this country. Yet it is also one of those principles that is not clearly defined. Over the years, we have depended on the good intentions of people from both the military and the parties to not step over the line.

    Mattis may end up being great, but it is still a precedent I don't want to see set.
     
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    Sounds like he's ripping over 50 years of middle eastern foreign policy.
     
  13. MojoMan

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    Maybe it needs to be ripped.
     
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    Certainly understand the concern, rimrocker, but again, Trump could have done far worse than Mattis. The man is deeply experienced and pragmatic, and based on the people that Trump has picked for other key positions, Mattis is a big improvement and appears to me to be someone who wouldn't hesitant to tell the man, "Uh, Mr. President, I think that is a really, really bad idea." The Chump needs people like that around him. He's already surrounded by sycophants. Using the waiver is rare. I'd support it in this case.
     
  15. sirbaihu

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    I don't mean to brag, but I've grabbed some p***y in my day. . . . And Nikki Haley has Cab Lev Puss!
    Even being Mexican. La pussijio grabolo. . . .
    Bolton's p***y sucks Dude. Trust me.
     
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    The misogyny of the left, pathetically on display, yet again.
     
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    :eek: I said her p***y COULD be grabbed.

    MEAN.
     
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    Hillary could have ran with an 'R' next to her name and it would be the Bush era all over again. #teampolitics
     
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    You keep repeating that whopper of yours looking for bites eh? Care to explain?
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    What is there to explain? Both sides will vote for whatever candidate will be on their ticket, regardless of how good or bad. And both sides will talk about how awful the other candidate is, regardless of policy.

    The left talked about how bad the Republicans were for being bought out by big money, yet they elected Hillary over Bernie.
    The right talks about how Christian morals are so important, yet they elect Trump over Rubio and Cruz.

    What is so hard to understand that its not about policies or beliefs, but about team sports. "As long as my team wins, thats all that matters".
     

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