Nets sign Donatas Motiejunas to 4-year, $37M offer sheet

You have to match. It's a no-brainer.

People seem to be forgetting that we have a lot of rotation players who have had issues staying healthy all season, including 2 of our bigs... Anderson and Nene.

Having too many good players is a nice problem to have. Especially when one has an elite skill, such as posting up, in case one of our other offensive weapons gets injured for a long period of time.

 

Oh, I agree, Dmo is betting on himself - for sure.

But let's say he comes in and is pretty good, and is contributing to the team well but is not like a GREAT contributor but is a GREAT insurance big on the bench - and the Rockets don't view him as 9m worth for the next year, so they cut him on Feb 28th, and then we have an injury - it is not an easy thing to do, to decide to give him a 2nd guaranteed year if he is only - Meh, or just ok......which after all of this, I believe that is what the Rockets think he is or they would have negotiated with BJ a bit more, clearly DMo was not asking for too much more than what the Rox were offering - so it sucks that it came to having to match a contract that hurts Morey's asset flipping style -......that is what happens when you let others set the market instead of you taking care of the players in the first place I guess.

DD

 

Yeah but I'm still looking for potential reasons why Morey wouldn't match other than some kind of personal beef with DMo or just being cheap. I want to think of some kind of legitimate reason why it might not happen just in case Morey decides to let him walk.

 

Sorry D Mo. you are the weakest link .....

 

Not even close - Enis, Wiltjir, Brown, Brewer - just to name 4.

DD

 

Should match cus you never know with injuries on this team and it'd be great to have him back.

 

I actually thought we'd be higher. IIRC by rebound rate we are.. or at least were a few games ago.

The thing is, we also don't miss as many shots as the other teams in our company. Again, IIRC.

 

Read my post . Information about dmo's back health may not be revealed by the trigger dates . In this way it's basically two years guaranteed and can't trade him without his consent over the summer .

I think he should match , but it will depend on what our doctors say . The triggers put in make it look like the nets don't have any faith in his back .. But what are the chances his back fails 2 months in to the contract vs 5 months in .

Of course if he is heathy ( and producing) then you pick up the option becuase of the long term upside .

The nets put those triggers in to protect themselves ? But if you are worried about his back falling apart by January why even offer him a contract ? I think those triggers might have been included to **** with moreys head.

 

Enis and Brown will probably be cut to make room for DMo and that will be a good thing. Especially Enis.

 

If you can't figure out if he is healthy to play in 3 months then there's something wrong with the organization. Again, there's no risk in increasing the depth of the team for 3 months so I see no reason not to match. At bare minimum, all you are doing is giving him between a month and 3 months to prove himself and you can cut bait at that point. Win-win.

 

Back injuries are tricky by nature . If the issue is that there is a chronic risk then for the first 3 months Dmo may be fine but then after taking a seasons worth of pounding he may reinjure the back.

It's not playing a single game that will cause him to get hurt its the grind of the NBA season .

 

And even then, you'd only be on the hook for one more year. Like I said, there's almost not risk in this contract whatsoever so that's just not a valid reason to not match.

 

Nene is done and he is completely disinterested in his situation. I think he wants a buyout from his meager vet contract.

 

???

Where do you see this contract being betting on himself? I can't even read the rest of your post, after that opening line.

This offer sheet is the complete opposite of betting on yourself. It has essentially a Team Option 4 yrs in a row ... locking him up to be seriously underpaid if he performs.

Betting on yourself is the QO, like you said for months. Did you forget making that argument all Summer? Signing for a discount with ability to turn UFA as early as possible (ideally 2017) is betting on yourself. 1yr + 2nd Yr Player Option is best for betting on yourself. 1yr only is 2nd best. 2yrs only is 3rd, as so on. 4yrs is not good for betting on yourself.

Honestly, I think you're losing your better reason analyzing this, because ultimately you know this is about as Team-Friendly as a mutually agreed-upon contract can be.

 

Thank you for bringing sanity "back" into this discussion. There is a reason why Dmo couldn't pass a physical in Detroit, I mean do they even have doctors in Detroit man? Yet, he still couldn't pass it. Back injuries are bad and not the same as other injuries, they typically end careers. Rockets have learned their lesson from this, OR we should hope they have.

 

Match for insurance purposes and bring him along slowly. He's far from game shape so lets keep rolling with who brought us here while he gets in shape. Let him take Nene's minutes here and there. Give him some minutes on our back-to-backs. If someone gets injured, increase his minutes. If we stay healthy, play the best 9-10 that you have regardless of contract. Don't worry about showcasing him until late next fall. If he plays sparingly, he should hold up at least through next December. Plus he'd be an expiring then.

 

The only reason they wouldn't match is if they truly think his injury is going to be career ending. I mean, if we can get 15 games OR 20 games out of Dmo, is it really worth it? Personally, I would rather see Harrell get those minutes and try to develop some of our youngsters. To bring Dmo back would essentially mean we think he will make it 100% through the entire season and playoffs. My opinion? Not that it matters. But My opinion is that Rockets don't feel very confident about him being able to make it through the season and stuff, man.

 

Absolutely. I see no reason Les is scared of eating $8.5m on the possibility of a Bust, when all original offers were for $8m guaranteed, on the same possibility of a Bust.

As for the March 1st deadline, Bobbythegreat says it a lot more concisely than me in these two posts

Put it this way: I doubt Morey ever seriously thought he'd succeed in getting a deadline that allowed him to sign a FA prior to the 2nd year locking in. I was always expecting a June 30th deadline (like Lawson) on any deadline. So I don't see any free agent flexibility difference between March 1st and June 30th. It's true that Yr 3 and Yr 4 have July 7th (post moratorium) as lock-in dates, though, but that's just another thing that makes this such a Team-Friendly contract.

 

Yeah, that's a point to be made, I guess. But if you "truly think his injury is going to be career ending" then you give him the TJones treatment way back on June 30th. The fact they never cut him and left the QO on the table the whole Summer, and negotiated with him until Nov 24th points to they don't "truly think" that.

 

Okay man. And for me, I really hope he doesn't have serious issues because that sucks for Dmo and I really feel bad for him. I hope he can still play and I HOPE he can have a long and fruitful NBA career. I still don't think (health issues aside), that he moves the needle for us very much. Again, these are just my opinions, man.