Trump already saving American jobs - Carrier to keep jobs in the US

You guys have been saying for a long time that these manufacturing workers were too low skilled and needed to get more education and now you're saying their these manufacturing jobs are high skill jobs -- what the hell is it?

It was a tax break. It didn't come from taxpayer dollars.

But, seriously, what's incredibly hilarious is that liberals are putting down Trump for giving tax breaks to companies worth millions then turn around to praise Obama for giving the auto industry a BAILOUT.

 

You're comparing anywhere from 1.5 million to 4.14 million American jobs lost resulting in at least over $100 billion hit taken by the federal government from all the government assistance they would have needed to provide. Through TARP the government actually made revenue while saving jobs and has over 50% approval rating from the latest polls concerning it. Plus it was originally proposed under President Bush's tenure as President and carried out under Obama's first year as President since Bush was leaving office.

Comparing TARP to this is pretty laughable.

 

You know what Obama's end of term job numbers mean in regards to Trump?

Nothing

Until we have Trumps finished term jobs number to compare

HOWEVER

You know what Obama's jobs number at this point in his presidency mean?

It means as of right now, when Trump and Obama were at this precise and exact point in the game Trump is kicking Obama's ass on job numbers and trending to demolish Obama's end of term numbers.

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139

I always did find it odd how many 'conservatives' are celebrating this as a win.

 

What about inflation?

And national debt?

Protectionist policies are unsustainable and have a net-negative impact for the country.

 

I don't think job numbers tell the entire story either. It's also the level of pay with those jobs. I know I keep mentioning Capital IDEA in my posts but partially the reason it came into existence was from tax abatements former mayor Bruce Todd gave Samsung to build their semiconductor plant here in Austin. He and other Austin City Council members agreed to the tax abatements under the condition that jobs from the plant would be given to local Austinites. 550 jobs were but at the federal minimum wage level. Not competitive wages to match Austin's escalating cost of living.

In turn through non-partisan entity Austin Interfaith, they protested to City Council members to institute a job training program that they would help develop. Through efforts by these community organizers they were able to collaborate and form Capital IDEA which has been a successful job training program for low income individuals that has also expanded to Houston. These students are low income residents of Austin and Houston that ultimately end up working competitive waged jobs. Furthermore these are jobs that both the city of Houston and Austin are in shortage of qualified people to hire and need. Again tax dollars invested into this program yield a rate of return of 10% on top of all the other benefits that come from it.

Compare that to the tax abatements Austin gave to Samsung that was initially at $12 million dollars over 5 years that has since climbed upwards of $321 million. 900 total jobs were promised with the 550 mentioned being designated to local Austinites. The state of Texas is paying $356,000 per job promised because of tax abatements. Not an efficient use of tax dollars in comparison to Capital IDEA's program which actually benefits low income residents of Austin and Houston and helps teach them and their offspring better developed skills of personal responsibility as well as competitive waged job training. And again these graduates pass their skills onto their offspring who when they become adults aren't in need of government assistance, thus breaking the cycle of poverty. Which method would you say is better?

Sources:

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/1998-03-20/523054/

http://www.workersdefense.org/wp-co...mise-of-the-Texas-Miracle-compressed-file.pdf

http://www.capitalidea.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/History-of-Capital-IDEA.pdf

http://www.capitalidea.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/AR2015.pdf

 

Not really. The point was that liberals were berating him for this move when Obama did something to an even greater magnitude. The Carrier employees would have needed assistance too and again, it's a tax break, not a bailout; a positive case to look at, if anything, considering it's keeping jobs going to competitors than fixing a too big to fail scenario.

 

Obama created 178,000 jobs (NOTE: at least 178 times more than Trump if you factor the countless jobs he saved) in November. Your move, Mr. President-Elect.

 

The bar for Trump is apparently so low that this moderate failure is considered a victory for him. Lulz. This is going to be a very good 4 years for satire.

 

I was speaking generally. There are a wide range of manufacturing jobs, and it seems countries that developed countries that hold onto and grow their manufacturing base, Japan, S. Korea, and Germany, have great educational programs to keep folks skilled.

It still effects Indiana's revenue.

The Bush and Obama administration saved ~1.5 million jobs during the most severe economic downtown since the great depression due to the auto bailout. Last time I checked, we weren't in a comparable situation.

Trump merely wanted a media event and got it.

 

Let the economy create them....?

 

Yes really. We are not in a severe economic downturn that requires prudent action so that two situations aren't comparable.This was a media stunt for everyone else who didn't get to keep their job as Trump's "jobs policy" won't be picking and choosing individual companies to help.

 

Sure it is, you just don't want to accept it. Don't want worry, your boy Trump will soon have his chance to put forth meaningful policy.

 

Pretty straight forward teddy bro-sevelt. Do they not teach basic things at Rice or Wharton Junior College or where ever? Obama doesn't have to do anything to create jobs son, the private sector does it yo. Straightforward to the dome son.

 

Lol. You are just talking in circles. Reply when you have something of substance to say sweetheart. I doubt you all of sudden hate job growth just because of Obama, you are just having an out of body experience.